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The Forum > General Discussion > Some of us 'Just don't get it.'

Some of us 'Just don't get it.'

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Maybe the idea of segregating healthy young human beings inside buildings for thirty-odd hours a week for thirty-odd weeks of the year and force- feeding them "knowledge" is where we're going wrong.
We've only been doing it for around two hundred years, after all.

Strange days on planet earth.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 18 November 2010 8:37:12 PM
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IMHO, this is what is wrong: yes we ask children what they want to be before they can even have a thought about it. I got brought up that way, my parents telling me what to be. I listened to them, but did it make me happy doing that? No!

Why does it always go back to god? GOD is your believe, FULLSTOP.

UOG: i hope you've started working on your book.

TPP: so, what can you do to change what you know? I had a chat on the phone today.. and i said, how we always look back at our childhood, because it was simple then. This world we choose to live in, is complicated, that can't change unless you choose to live otherwise.
Sexual assault? Reality, just hv to accept and live with it.

It might be complicated, but doesn't mean you have to keep stressing and worrying about everything. We have it good, just choose to look at the negatives, and not the positives.

nairbe: just remove all the symbols, and UOG's writing will be clear.

Hasbeen: it's getting worse if you choose to look at it that way. they are theories to prove you WRONG

Go back to your earlist memories before someone/thing told you what to believe...

Stop feeling sorry for the wrongs, and start feeling great for the right, is that too much to ask?
Posted by jinny, Thursday, 18 November 2010 8:41:22 PM
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Jinny:”Stop feeling sorry for the wrongs, and start feeling great for the right, is that too much to ask?”

I find that a freakish question for a self proclaimed rebel to ask.

Jinny: “ so, what can you do to change what you know”

Why would I want to do that? I’d rather change what I don’t know.

Jinny I think you’ve decided I’m not happy, there is a gap between being aware of situations that make one very unhappy and one actually being an unhappy person. I’m hanging out in the gap.

Looking back at childhood from the perspective of being a child brings a lot of chaotic images and confusion. Adults see children as uncomplicated and simple but that isn’t how children view the world around them. They don't have the ability to "get it".

I might be on shakey ground their spindoc.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Thursday, 18 November 2010 9:01:34 PM
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Dear Nicnoto,
We get our identity from our father. We have a generation without identity (lost). If you see God as your father, as you develop a relationship with him you develop his character in your life. The older I get the more of my father I see in my life. My hope is in Jesus. Without hope you are hope less. Al put it simply and correctly.
Children are good mimics and see through hypocrisy.
Love is the key. God is Love and he is only a decision away.
If your hope is in evolution you believe in random chance not intelligent design.
Posted by Richie 10, Thursday, 18 November 2010 10:55:07 PM
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Spindoc, I think I understood what you said:

There are millions who claim to be religious, but how many actually are?

Stating 'God Exists' is a mere intellectual exercise, just as others state 'We are going forward' or 'Mankind can do it'. Intellectual exercises do not make one happier, intellectual exercises do not a religion make.

"Religion" comes from the Latin "re-ligare" - to bond again [with God]. Obviously this endeavour demands much more from the individual than simply stating 'X is true ; Y is false', it demands one's whole being, day-in and day-out, night-in and night-out, doing one's best to unite with God out of love. It demands sacrifices, it demands austerities, and though failing over many times, picking up the pieces and trying again and again with renewed determination.

Happiness does come along the way, but the true seeker, the true lover of God, will not be tempted. S/He will say: "God, it is not this happiness which you sent me that I am after - it is You alone that I love, You alone that will satisfy me".

ALGOREisRICH,

The correct translation of the psalm should be "Blissed", rather than "Blessed":

Blissed is the man who did not walk in the path advised by the wicked
Nor stood in the path of sinners
Nor sat in the seat of mockers
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 19 November 2010 12:23:20 AM
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Dear Yuyutusu,
I have some great news for you, The price has been paid in full, and the need for sacrifices is finished, the way to God is open. As I get older I find my father in myself. I guess I am a chip of the old block. All fall short of the mark and are tempted. Our efforts at righteousness are as filthy rags to God. Wash your robe in the blood of the lamb who has bore the punishment for our sins, don't reject Gods free gift of salvation. If you truly want to bond with God all you have to do is accept Gods free gift of salvation. Swallow your pride and admit that it is not possible for you to make enough sacrifice to appease God. As you live in the vine you will bare the fruit of the vine. We get our identity and our name from our father. To be called by Christs name we must be born into his family. Impossible for man BUT with God ALL things are possible. Blessed is the man whose God is the Lord, cursed is the man who rejects Gods free gift and he will continue to live by the sweat of his brow, his own efforts at righteousness. The law came by Moses. Grace (undeserved favor), and Truth came through Jesus. THE PRICE IS PAID IN FULL. The way to God is open.
Ps living in a chook house does not make you a chook. Going to church does not make you a christian. It is the old story of the chicken and the egg which came first.
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Posted by Richie 10, Friday, 19 November 2010 4:21:51 AM
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