579

You aren't making it easy for the rest of us to argue that we are criticised unfairly.

579, I do believe that you would be far happier in a place like Afghanistan, where men are masters of all they see.

Here's a little secret for all you so-called 'demonized' men out there.

We women only really dislike all those men who dislike women.

We have no problems with, and in fact quite like, the far greater numbers of real men who get on well with women in our society.

We demonise men because the VAST majority of violent crime is committed by - - - - you guessed it, MEN.

End of story.

"Secrets of a single sex workplace" is an interesting read
http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/38333/20041023-0000/www.kittennews.com/kn_mag/06_jun03mag/warrior_07.htm

<I also found them incredibly sexist. In the office there were several soft-porn postcards and a calendar of naked and near-naked men. And often there would be a sign up with some man-bashing comment or joke. The women would also make anti-male jokes and pepper their conversations with pronouncements on the inadequacies of their menfolk.>

<To witness a woman flirting with a male delivery man to get what she wants, then making bitchy comments about him just after he’s gone is to understand how much crueler and duplicitous women can be than men.>

Suzie, demonizing men who are judged to dislike women. Is that objective or subjective?

When was the trial and was the evidence "tested" or was it a a show trial.

Secondly could it not be a form of sexual harrasement.

Suze

"We women only really dislike all those men who dislike women."

That sounds quite reasonable, but I just wonder exactly how you define the "dislike women" bit.

What I am about to write applies to everyone, even me.

Transference.
"It is common for people to transfer feelings from their parents to their partners or children (i.e., cross-generational entanglements). For instance, one could mistrust somebody who resembles an ex-spouse in manners, voice, or external appearance; or be overly compliant to someone who resembles a childhood friend."

"When we encounter a person who reminds us of someone whom we do or did like and who is or was important to us, we infer, unconsciously, that this person is indeed like our significant other (whether a lover, friend, relative, or other person)."

Projection and transference often occur together and I usually get them mixed up.

Projection

"According to Sigmund Freud, projection is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings onto someone else. 'Emotions or excitations which the ego tries to ward off are "spit out" and then felt as being outside the ego...perceived in another person'[5]. It is a common process that every person uses to some degree"

A good example is where a person wants to have an affair, but accuses their partner of being unfaithful. Another example I read about was that men are often accused of fantasing about other women, during sex, yet it is the woman who is doing the fantasizing during sex.

Now begins the endless circle of arguement about who uses projection and transference more.

I am sure that Suzie or someone will troll through all my posts and confront me with the evidence of my own projections and transference.

And like what Holly said "Demonization" can be in the eye of the beholder and a matter of opinion, if demonization is what you are looking for, then that is what you find.

Similarly when feminists, look for sexism and oppression that is all they will see. (note that feminists are blind to their own sexism)

Sexually harrasement is also a matter of a point of view.