..vice...Each and every one..of you..should*..lol..make it..his or..her business*..to..watch for evil,..to hunt it out..and drive it forth...[sound familour?]

If you suspect..that..any*person..is secretly*guilty..of some vicious practice,..do not rest..till you*..discover his..or her..secret sin...

Even if it/is ..someone near..and dear to you,..
it is your duty*..to denounce it.

If you want help..or advice..in this..great work,[lol]
come to me..and tell..me*..what you..suspect...lol

Don’t wait..till the evil/thing..becomes rampant;..strike at once.
In me*..you will..always find..a ready helper.

Do not let..any false..ideas of honor..stand..in y*our way.
In searching out..evil,..you are entitled to use..any..?..means...{gasp}..none..so blind..as those..who refuse..to see

“‘Let me*..give you*..an example.

A friend..of yours..does not come,.to church...You suspect her*
of carrying on..an intrigue..with someone..else’s..husband.

You should pretend*..to be sympathetic;
you should trap her..into a confession..if possible.
You should..warn her/..husband;..above all,..you should tell me.’{lol}

“He went on..in this strain..
for some time..and ended up..with‘

..and..when guilt is..established,..no mercy must be shown
to..the guilty members..of society.

They must..be/driven out.
They..must be hurled..from..the battlements*
into..the great chasm..from which..there is..no return.’

[WHO WOULD WANT...to?]

[note]...this is seriously/twisted..were not talking figeratively...here..!

they..actually do this...in this true hell...
[of course..those..so bannished..mearly go to the lower...lust hell..etc..acording to..their loves]

“In conclusion,..he announced..

there would be..a social entertainment/next day
in order to..raise funds..for church improvements.

“As..I was going out..I heard one member of/the congregation..say to another,..both men:“‘What I would like to know..is what happens to all..the money..which he is always*..raising..for church improvements.’

“The other replied,..‘I’m sure he pockets it,..
or at any rate..most of it.’

“The first man,..‘Yes,..so I think,..but what/does he spend it on?’
“The second man,..‘I suspect*..[lol}..that he leads..a double life —
has..a second home,..you know.’

“I heard..no more,..but I determined to go
to..the ‘social..entertainment.’

“In due course..I arrived there,..and...in a sort of church hall
found the vicar..and his curate..surrounded by..a worshipping band of females.

They hung on..his..every word,.
and when they got a chance..poured scandal..into his ear.

Between times..they told spiteful..tales/about the vicar
and various..female members..of his congregation.

At length..I got a chance/of..a few words with the vicar..alone,

and said:“‘Vicar,..I’m going to ask you..
a plain question..between man..and man,

and..you..can..rely/on

can/..rely on..my discretion.

Do you..believe..in the..truths of..the Christian/religion..which you..have to*..teach,..

or are you,..like so many learned divines,..personally convinced*..the whole..thing is..a myth,..and if so,..do you..really think..there is *a God,..Heaven and Hell,..and so/forth?’

“He pressed his two hands..together..and said..unctuously:
“‘A great deal..turns on..what you mean..by believe.

A clergyman..has a great*responsibility.
He must not..say anything*..which may cause a..weaker brother to stumble.’

“I pressed him closely..on the point,..and at length he said:

“‘Personally..I have long thought that..the tale of Christ is a myth,
a beautiful myth,..and I am sure St...Paul..thought so.

I don’t think the early Christians..ever thought..otherwise.
They regarded it..as a symbol which taught..a great truth,..just as
the ancient..Egyptians preached of..the death and resurrection of Osiris.

I don’t imagine...[lol]..for a moment..that an educated..
Egyptian believed that Osiris ever really lived;..it was a parable.

Unfortunately..the ignorant gradually grew to regard the parable
as literally true,..and..during the Middle Ages this belief became universal.

Today we are by..degrees recovering{or receeding..retarding...freewill...oh welllet it go}..the truth..and clearing away the dross of superstition.. but of course we cannot proclaim..these facts{lol}..from the house-tops.

Indeed,..if we did,..we should probably be called..agnostics,
and turned out of our livings..{and cast..off the cliff}..

Still,..quietly,*..we are doing..a great*work..a great work.’[lol]

“I said,..‘If,..then,..the whole of Christianity..is based on a parable,
of what use..is the Church?’

“He...‘Of the very greatest,..my friend.
It is a great moral force.{cliff throwing comes to mind}

That is..what it was*originally intended to be,
and in that sphere..it can be..of the greatest benefit.

Oh,..I foresee..a long life of useful work..for the Church
when freed from all..the superstitious accretions..which have
attached themselves to its ancient form....[no comment]

Many men..who at present ar..disgusted..at what they rightly regard
as puerile fables..will rally to*it..as a great social..factor
for the..moral*..uplifting..of the masses.’[jesus weeps]

“‘I think..some people are inclined..to lay too*much stress on its social value,
and..overlook the importance..of its moral influence,..but they are materialists;..LOL

i thank Heaven,..I am not..one of...*them.’

“I:..‘Do you think..there are..such places as Heaven..and Hell,
and..is there..after all..such..a being..as God?’

“He:...‘With regard to..the last point,..I think*..we are not..as yet..in a position..to give a..definite answer...

We are..at liberty..to hold..our own views...

[yes..we each are..allowed to believe..in delusions..or not
[its..a law]..freewill

To..some people..the conception..of a God..of some sort ..is necessary,..like..the parables/of Christ,..or..they would cease to/obey..the moral law;

but,..personally,..while..I would/not be..so presumptuous..
as to say..there is no God,..I..do not consider..one..is essential.

I..consider..that this world..is governed by/laws,
and..the moral law..[I arbitrate..lol]..is the highest.

Those..who break..the moral law..sooner..or later are/..punished..by that law,..ie..[chuck em over..the cliff]..

so that..I do not see..that an..arbitrary Creator..is necessary;
but,..of/course,..I should not say this..to my flock..[true sheep]..as a whole.’

“I interrupted..the flow..of eloquence..with,..

‘Still,..it is not..necessary..to conceive of God/..as an arbitrary Autocrat...He may be..a wise,..all-seeing..Judge,..who co-ordinates His..various laws.’

“He...‘He..may be;..but to turn to..the question of..Heaven and Hell,
I think I may say..frankly..I don’t believe..in either.

[yet..he now resides..here..[in hell..]..

I consider..that each man,..roughly speaking,..gets his rewards and punishments/on this earth*...lol..either by disease..or from his fellow-men.

Hell..I..consider..a monstrous idea.

For my part..I should hesitate..of course to say..
there is..no life/..*after death,..but..even so...

no..I doubt it.’

“I stared at him..for a minute,..and then said,..
‘But how did..you..get here?’..[ie/hell]

“He...‘In rather a curious way...I was..very ill,..and..at length became unconscious.

While I was in..this state..I had some most curious..and horrible dreams...[on the astral/realm]..I won’t trouble to/describe them,..but then..I was evidently delirious...lol

When I recovered..I found..myself here,..without my wife.

No one could tell me..exactly how..I came here,..but being here,
and/finding..that the vicar..of this church..had just disappeared..in a most mysterious way,..I took-up..his cure,..and have done..his work..ever since.

Everybody is agreed..that..he must*be..dead...[a..sad lol..]

That’s..the curious thing..about life here...People don’t die.

I never have..a..funeral service.
They just vanish.

I can’t help thinking..the sanitary authorities..dispose of the bodies/silently,but,..after all,..I’ve other things..to bother about.

My parish ..is..a fashionable one,..in/the best part of..the city,
and..I have to devote...my whole time..to it.’

“I...‘But..you’ve married..again?’

“He...Yes...I soon came..to the conclusion..that while I was ill,..my wife..must*have died,..so..I had no hesitation..in marrying again...

Of course..I’m too old..to need..that sort of thing,..
but my..wife..is a great help..in the parish...a great help.

I’m afraid..she is not always/tactful,..
but..one can’t have..everything.’

“I...‘Then..even*..you..do not
realize..that you..are..in Hell?’

“He...‘What a..preposterous...question!’

“I then proceeded..to give my reasons..for knowing*..we were..in Hell,..and narrated..my/adventures..since I died.

He listened..very coldly,..

and..at last broke in..with:
“‘Thank you,..I’ve heard..enough.

If I were a swearing-man..I should use strong language,..but as it is,..I will
content myself..with saying..that I don’t believe..a word you’ve/told me.

I’m sorry..I have..wasted my time..talking to..such a man.

If you are..not a liar,..then,..by your own*..showing,
you are an..unmitigated scoundrel...Good-day,

..and I should advise/you..to leave this city..as soon as possible,
for although..I shall not..myself denounce you,..being a humane man,
others..will certainly discover..your true character,

and then..you can..expect little mercy.’

“He left me,..and a moment later..began..to tell..two women
who hurried up to him..all..about me,..

so I thought..it best..to depart without..undue delay.

back to..ch/31..[gone west]

I asked,..“What is the..age limit..at which children..can enter Hell?

I notice that..from the account of..the officer*[prior/report]..there are no children..in Hell..proper,..and yet..they are to be found..in the seventh..division of/Hell.”

H.J.L..answered,..“You cannot,..of course,..*fix any*..exact age limit.

Things work much/more reasonably than that.

Thus if an infant dies..who as yet..knows nothing of God,..it/goes to the infant schools..in Hell,..as you know...

If it has acquired..*a vague idea/of God..and of the reality...of a future life,..it will come to our..secondary schools..in the realm of..half-belief.

“If..it has acquired sufficient knowledge..it may go to the college,.and,..finally,..boys and girls..who have a real living/belief..{and why should*not CHILDREN..be given..this..[they get given..satan-claws..[santa]..and the ester-rabbit...and other delusions..

why not..good/god..?]

those..WITH sufficient..KNOWledge..may go direct to..the realm above this.. or..occasionally..to the highest plane of all....

[those who..dont...[well..lets call it child-abuse]..regardless..of adult..beliefs

In these..cases..they will have to..complete their/education..on the intellectual side,..although their spiritual side..may*be well developed.

This is,..of course,..a reversal..of what*generally happens here.

Usually our intellects have/been developed..largely at
the expense of..our spiritual functions.

“Now..let us consider..the other side.

“When a child reaches..a certain stage*..in its development,
equating..roughly..to an earthly/child..from five to seven,it would..
*ordinarily..begin to have..some general*idea..as to right..and wrong.

Now if a child..has been..*badly brought up,
or..if it inherits..a perverse..and evil nature..
from its ancestors,..or/if..obsessed,[possesed]....it may develop..very unpleasant characteristics.

It may commit serious/offences,..and in general..*may begin to develop badly.

“Under these circumstances..it'..education..in the higher-realms.
is cut off..very often....at the...

.at the wish of..its..*guide
and..transferred..to the astral/plane.

There,..clear of many of the surroundings..which might have..dragged it down,..it will have..an opportunity..of developing and..of learning..sufficient to..enable it
on leaving..the astral plane...to come..at least to..the realm of half-belief.

“This period..of child life..stretches..the earthy/equivelent..
roughly from five to twelve,..but,..of course,..may/vary at either end.

“The third stage..is..when they are ceasing*..to be children..and becoming adults,..especially in the matter of sex...This is a very critical age..

and many children unfortunately/choose the downward..instead of the upward path.

“The tendency is still,..however,..for the final decision
to be left..for the astral plane's temptations...and l-earnings..;

and I must remind you...that to a certain extent..this is*..always the case.

In the case;..however,..of an adult hardened in love of hurtfull-sin,
the astral..simply continues..in its new*life,..repeating/the sins of the former;

but a youth..who has started..on the downward path,..being less
hardened,..is more likely to be checked..by the shock of death.

Further,..he is hardly*likely..to have had time
to drive*away...his guardian angel*..in the way that..a hardened sinner..*has*.

Thus even..a thoroughly vicious youth..will probably*..see the folly
of his ways..as soon*as..he reaches..the astral plane,..[more of the same..being given]

and the..same...from opposing sides...take as you gave[the same coin]..

and the vicious habits,..not yet..*being..firmly rooted,
..will be..easier..for those...to seek to try...better..to eradicate.

“On the other hand,..if he rejects this..second chance..and falls into..love]..of..the type of sins..represented by..‘obsessing,’..he will sooner or later..be hurled..out of..his astral*body into..his..{earned}....Hell.

But when..that day comes..he or..she will no longer..*be a child,
probably..not in years,*..and..certainly not..in spiritual development.

“Thus..you see..how it comes about..that there are no*..children in Hell.”

J.W...“But there are..vicious children of five..or six.”
who simply refuse..to know better...such is the spoiling of childhoods innocence ..bought to fruition...they simply have been created..into faulsity...thinking their stools dont stink

anyhow...i could endlessly..continue....in this mission
but..read the texts..*yourself...

each word..comes via hard effort
to quote..gone west
Chapter..XXIX

“Neither..Will They Be Persuaded..
Though..One Rose..From..the Dead”

it was meant..as a piece of..conclusive/evidence,
and I think..most would agree..it is.

With regard to..P.,..matters are a little different.
He..feels it rather..a hindrance..already to keep..sufficiently in touch..with earth matters..to send you his*..experiences,

and..does not want to do..anything
which might..*draw him back..still further..into earthly..conditions

If..P. agreed to answer..those tests,
he would..at once be/assailed..by further ones.

He would be constantly worried..by them,..and,
therefore,..dragged/back..into earth conditions.

He wishes..to be rid of earth trammels,..and, instead,..would find
he had rebound himself..with them.

If he refused..to answer further tests,
people would at*once say..it was fraud.

They would say,..‘Here are communications..coming through
which*purport to be..from Mr.P.,..and yet..the entity either will not
or..cannot answer..these simple*questions..as to his earth life’...

lol..[none so blind]

“They would refuse..to see..that it is quite one thing..to send..a message..through
dealing..with life here..and..quite..another to put ourselves..again..in touch with..our former earth life...to what end...?

“You yourself believe us..
and do not bother us..with unnecessary questions

Plenty of evidence..has*..been sent through..
to prove that..we dont..simply..'die'..to any..reasonable man.

Even what..we have given..should*..be sufficient,..and there have been still
more striking examples..where spirits have deliberately..thrown back
their own*progress..so as to prove..even to..the most obstinate
unbeliever..that there is*..a personal*survival..after/death.

But it is selfish..*and unreasonable*..to expect us
..continually to be doing..that sort of/thing,

*I mean delaying*..our own progress.*

“No,..Jack,..many people..do*believe,

but..it is..still true..of many/..more.. men,

‘Neither will..they..be persuaded..
though one rose..from..the dead.’

“Now..it’s time..you were off.”

Next instant..I sank into oblivion.—..J.W.

ok..

lets heed..jinny..now.
..and END HERE

and..i can only..be gratfull..
they*..did..as much..as they..have..put into words

..in short...its all..been*revealed

its as simple...as..SEEK/..and..FIND...
and..discriminate...filter..it*..through..love's..filter

[as much..as we..need]..
has..ALLREADY been WROTE..[to gain..certainty]

now..i go..to live...[THIS*LIFE]...
knowing..for a surity..there IS..A NEXT

Goodbye.”

“I close.—H.J.L.”

you can lead..a horse..{donkey/mule..goat/fool}....to water

*but...WE cant*..make* THEm..drink

all wells..draw...from
the one..[good]..water..cause..
[truth/love mercy..grace][good/god]

religeons..are wells...

dont drink the cool-aid..but search out..
the GOOD..from GOD..

if its from man...recall in-flux..comes according to our mindset
from heaven...if..*in the love
from hell..if not *in love
[swedenburg...said it more fully]

*above all...love..good
by love of..neighbour

so ends................
.......the/short scroll

what next?
i had hoped for questions
[but my computer threatended to dump...all my info[this morning]
auto updates...live time watching,,,to what end]

[i learn..by researching..for answers]

they arnt...*my answers
only ones..i believe..have some shreds of truth

ok..court..22 nov..
[to..try to ask some questions]
then...who/knows

l.g.l.n
l>n>l>g