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The Forum > General Discussion > Cross Dressing - The latest 'Get out of Gaol Free' card.

Cross Dressing - The latest 'Get out of Gaol Free' card.

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individual,

I am not a mental health expert, however, I have a reasonable knowledge of behaviours attributed to the high end of the autistic spectrum - and this includes Aspergers.
Many of the behaviours that you mentioned in your last post are merely characteristics commonly displayed by ordinary humans and would be considered within the normal range.
My point is that someone with Aspergers is less likely to have to ability to manipulate the "ignorance" of mental health workers. People with Aspergers have a much narrower concept of things that you and I take for granted. For instance, many are unlikely to "get" sarcasm because they are so literal. Tell them to "go jump in the lake" and they will look around for a lake.
Because of this they are easily manipulated.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 5 September 2010 11:10:52 AM
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BM >> It's worth noting that other mental illnesses can contribute to criminal behaviour as 80% of prisoners tested in Australia are mentally ill

Good point you raise there, so, why are they doing time and this guy is not?

Is his disorder given preference when a judge hands down a decision?

Still nobody has answred the quest as to why our system punishes the 'normal people', yet, makes excusses for those with disorders/hang ups'

WHY?
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 5 September 2010 2:04:25 PM
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rehctub,

Obviously, from the information you put up in your last post - (80% of prisoners in Australia are mentally ill.) - they are being punished...answered your own question there.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 5 September 2010 2:12:19 PM
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As I asked earlier, "Does anyone here have the "full transcript" of what was "actually said" in the court judgment?".

Then, and only then, are we qualified to pass judgment on the judgment.

Actually it's my wife asking that; she wanted me to ask it again here as nobody here seems to know what was actually said (other than what's written in tabloid stories on the subject).
Posted by TZ52HX, Sunday, 5 September 2010 3:02:19 PM
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Rehctub, this person wasn't protected from jail for being mentally ill. That is not what happened.

This person was unable to be sent to jail because the justice system can't keep transgender people (and Australian scientists have found at least two genes linked to Transgender!) safe in jail, because the government has been terrified of stopping the daily assaults of Transgender people because actually treating all Australians as Equal would upset the 4% of bigots in marginal seats that want to keep the ability to bash transgender people with impunity.

Peoples safety in jail is the governments responsibility as the prisoners are suppossed to come out better than they went in, but that, while lowering repeat crime, doesn't win votes as well as 'tough on crime' punishment measures that actually make crime worse.

Transgender people do not get equal treatment women get anti-violence television campaigns to protect them (which is good) but they have a far lower risk pf being bashed than 46% but the government refuses to save Transgender peoples lives. The governments failure to address this is one reason why this has happened. The failure to run prisons to actually reform criminals is the other. But that costs money, (especially since we started privatising the industry so prisons have to make profit!) and costs votes because scaremongering politicians would rather use the 'soft on crime' false argument even though they know more people will be raped and murdered from the 'tough on crime' option than reform options.

But if we had proper policies to protect Transgender people from violence and we had a seperate prison for them then this sentencing problem wouldn't have occured.
Posted by Bayne MacGregor, Sunday, 5 September 2010 6:45:46 PM
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Bayne MacGregor, So what about isolation? Why is this not an option for TG people?

Poirot, I simply pasted another posters info.

So now we have two questions.
1. Would a normal person have been sent to gaol?
2. Why do some with mental illnesses do time while others don't?
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 6 September 2010 6:40:32 AM
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