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The Forum > General Discussion > Cross Dressing - The latest 'Get out of Gaol Free' card.

Cross Dressing - The latest 'Get out of Gaol Free' card.

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I simply think it's a great shame that somebody can start a post like this which for all intents and purposes appears to be a thinly veiled attempt to denigrate a human being who obviously has genetic problems. Possibly a greater shame is that the moderators actually let it run.

Who was it Rechtub, Runner and Individual that made you judge, jury and executioners? Perhaps there should be hate laws in place for people who create malicious inflammation against such cases where a person's rights and circumstances were duly noted by the trial judge.

And Rechtub, you said ....."But, had he been a normal person...." Rechtub, as a mental health practitioner can I ask you this, could you please define "normal?" Every one of my clients who some would judge as anything from the sublime to the ridiculous and even the bazaar are simply a normal variation of nature.

Perhaps you may like to study the words of the Buddha and from them you might learn to calm your anger, quell your fears and control your emotions. Then come back and write something nice :-)
Posted by Aime, Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:58:05 PM
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Aime>>.." Rechtub, as a mental health practitioner can I ask you this, could you please define "normal?"

Most likely the tousands of every day people who walk past your office/clinic but don't come in, I would suspect.

You, like most others simply won't address the issue and try to verbally bash me. Good luck, many have tried so give it your best shot.

Now ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 5 September 2010 7:38:33 AM
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Bayne MacGregor,,
Those who hate crossdressers transsexuals and gays are usually either that way themselves or attracted to them.
They're not heterosexual then are they ?.
Aime,
Judge & Jury ? Isn't that what you're doing with Rehctub & me ? We're not denigrating anyone, we're stating facts. As a mental health practitioner you'd hardly ever be exposed to the normalcy of daily life. How then, even if explained to you, would you understand normal. If, as you state, mental health is merely a normal variation of nature then why the need for your meddling with their mind ? p.s. A Bazaar is a market as far as I'm aware. Maybe I'm going mental.
Rehctub,
I couldn't tell who is normal but I sure can point out several fruitcakes here. Many of those "mental health" patients are clever enough to exploit the ignorance of the bureaucrats & manage to go through life without having to do a day's work. Mental ? I don't think so.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 5 September 2010 8:26:10 AM
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individual,

It seems to me that this person's Aspergers disorder was possibly the main contributing factor in the judge's decision - and the fact that it was compounded by his effeminacy.
Do you have any real knowledge of how Aspergers affects a person's perceptions? Probably not.
Although, people with Aspergers are often very intelligent, they are also extremely literal - they are often naive, extremely gullible and easily manipulated (and, therefore, unlikely to have the faculties to display exploitative ploys with bureaucrats).
To incarcerate this person in a dangerous predatory environment for a crime without intent would have been akin to throwing him into a lion's den.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 5 September 2010 9:04:39 AM
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Poirot,
Point taken, but why don't the "experts" address many other mental disorders such as greed ? or isn't that a disorder ? What of the disorder which makes some people steal off others or the disorder of fanaticism ? I don't dispute your questioning my knowledge of this particular disorder. I frankly know nothing about it. But, what if one of those intelligent but naive people turns around & exploits the ignorance of many mental health workers ? I've watched it & it simply made mad with frustration as to how these "experts' were being manipulated at everyone else's expense, time & monetary yet when pointing this out to the experts one gets treated like an idiot.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 5 September 2010 10:14:44 AM
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Individual, sure then most people who call themselves heterosexual are not heterosexual, which of course matches the data from the last half century which finds that exclusively heterosexual people are pretty uncommon just like exclusively gay ones (which is why many gay people have natural-born kids!) and that the majority of people are actually varying degrees of bisexual.

Also Greed is not a mental illness, but the psychopaths likely to act on that greed are. It's worth noting that other mental illnesses can contribute to criminal behaviour as 80% of prisoners tested in Australia are mentally ill. The majority of prisoners in Australia also have brain damage to the impulse-control parts of the brain... perhaps a ban on many sports could reduce the brain-injury caused crime rate? Perhaps our prisons should be more like rehabilitation hospitals? A deterrant threat has no value for someone with brain damage to the impulse control part of the brain, only therapy using neuroplasticity science to teach the injured person to rewire the brain such as is used to give a sex life to paraplegics would work, and if we want them to leave prison safe for the community we need to do that.

Poirot, if being Asperger was considered more of an issue than being Transgender then the judges decision might be the right one for the wrong reason. I do not disagree about the danger to an aspergers person of being imprisoned, but when the rape and assault rates of Transgender people are so high I would be very surprised to find the Aspergers rates higher. We know that 38% of male to female spectrum Transgender Queenslanders have been assaulted with a weapon. 46% assaulted without a weapon. One study found that 50% of Transgender people had been victims of rape. Do you have stats to show Aspergers is at greater risk?
Posted by Bayne MacGregor, Sunday, 5 September 2010 10:49:33 AM
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