Do the math belly.

5% per year for 20 years, compounding.

Now, come 2030, do you think we will be eating home grown foods, after all, HG foods SHOULD in crease by at least 10 to 15% per year, to allow for increased wages and costs and a little bit for the boss, otherwise the employer will go broke, or, do you think we will all be forced to eat cheap imports?

Now if we ban imports and increase food prices by 10 to 15%, for the next 20 years, that's fine, so long as the employer gets his 5% increase each year as well.

Now, do you see this happening? And remember, we are only talking about food.

What about almost everything else that is either, imported, or at least made from imported goods?

Do we ban all imports so we can at least support jobs in our own nation?

What about if the likes of the US or europe do the same?

What then, we simply can not continue down the same path without some very serious reforms. Otherwise, there may well be no 2030. At least not as we know it now.

BTW, did you see last night story on china, 60 minutes. Scary stuff hey!

On my first day at work less than 13 years of age I earned 5 pounds.
Picking peas in a year frost had killed most of the crop.
Prices very high and one of those very close very big family's camped on the farm.
They acted as the union, set the price and picked 95% of the crop.
Market forces the farmer had his best cash crop of his life.
My pay was near three weeks of my dads.
After bread meat and 3 pounds for mum I had 18 shillings towards the price of a bike.
No one went broke, my Money went back into circulation.
A BASE FACT, I think still no boss employs a worker because he likes them.
They build his firm and cash box too.
They oil the local economy.
High wages lead to high prices.
I spent more today on Lunch, a simply fish and chips one,than my dad earned in a month.
When I was 16 living away from home constructing a power station my dad got 6 pounds a week, I got 27.
No one went broke our country grew shorter working weeks gave birth to a whole new recreation and leisure industry.
Would you rechtub leave low paid workers to forever not have a chance to take the kids to the yellow arches on Sunday?
IS it ok to demand a lower paid lower class working class for the good of the economy?
Is wages the only factor for some shops closing? could over priced junk be more likely the problem?
In 2030 I will be dead if someone remembers me please let it be for caring about workers rights, understanding a boss has the right to a fair days work for a fair days pay.
And understanding we, each of us could fall on hard times

Very heart warming belly.

Just remember, back in the late 70's, when I left school and started work, a years wage, for a butcher, would buy you a house.

Now it's more like 7.5 years.

A loaf of bread was not much less than you can buy one today, a shirt is about the same price today, only imported. A pair of shoes much the same, again, imported.

We have a generation that will never see a shirt or shoes made in Australia, unless of cause, it has some uniquness about it.

Finally, I don't hate workers, all I say is that when the wages of 'un skilled' jobs are high, then we can't afford to paid the skilled workers what they are worth and, our leaders wonder why we have a skill shortage. It's a dead set 'non brainer'!

I say again, what do you do when a stop go sign holer is on $100 per hour.

How could any pensioner afford to call a traddie?

Do you see a problem moving forward?

No bloke just can not look at it like you do.
Those shoes are made by very low income workers who may starve without them.
We help them by providing a market.
To make shoes here your way we would need to reduce our costs/wages to those rates
is that not true?

Belly, that is very true and indeed, the whole cruts of my thread.

Manufacturing-All but gone.

Farming - Going

Office workers are even being replaced by overseas competitors.

I read somewhere that one can hire the services of an entire, fully staffed office for the cost of one exec staff member here.

For god sake, we even import the labels on food stuffs telling us what we are eating.

Just tell me one thing.

Where do you suggest the jobs will come from come 2030?

Manufaturing
Farming
Retail
Textile industries
IT
Tourisum

Where?

ok rechtub take a seat mine is long black four sugars.
We need to go back to the past to bring you up to date with the future.
Trade changed , about the Time England went in to the EU.
We no longer had a market for butter wool meat, things got a bit tight.
We had meat exports, cracker cows to America, ex milking or baldy faced crosses bred for that market.
World trade, it became both a pain in the butt and a new market for us.
While we saw America [our good mate with its hand in our back pocket] do dirty deals locking us out of the lamb market.
We set our sights on a true fair, no lock outs world trading system.
You can bet its better in 2030 than ever before.
So Katter wanted to replace trade barriers, locking the gate on? our selfs as we lock out other country's they to lock us out.
How do you see our farmers dieing out.
What evidence?
back to the present.