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The year 2030

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I certainly hope that my children's children will have the same blessings that I have had in life. Unfortunately under secularism every generation is becoming more selfish. Tax reform would only work if Governments used the money wisely instead of squandering huge amounts of money. Thankfully people have sent out a message to the current Government as to what they think of huge waste. Imagine they had of inherited an even bigger surplus. Tax reform will only be good if Governments just govern.

It is a nice thought that we don't have to be involved in other peoples wars. None of us like the idea of our countrymen or woman getting killed. Unfortunately while evil exist I doubt whether it is possible to be immune. Non religion actually leads to more death than religion although this is an inconvenient truth for those who deny their Creator and accountability. Russia and China tried wiping out all religion and look at the results. Unfortunately their will be no peace until the Prince of Peace returns to the earth. He is the only One who can deal with the source of war (the corrupt nature of men's hearts).

Hand ups are far better than hand outs. People rarely appreciate some thing they never put in effort in receiving. Look at the way many (not all) treat Government housing. Giving food and clothing is far better than giving money.

Super contributions
The problem with super is that the fund managers really are like economic soothsayers. In the last 2 years my very small super fund has lost a fair portion of its entirety and this is on moderate growth.

The bottom line is that the Scriptures have foretold of the world coming into a great tribulation. All prophecies regarding Israel and its haters are being fulfilled before our eyes.

The most secure thing a parent or grandparent can do in this life is to ground their children in Christ. In Him they will weather every storm and will look forward to eternal life. Without Him life is meaningless and leads to eternal death anyway.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 3:14:42 PM
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philanthropists and aid workers.
houllie,
how many of them are using resources that they didn't obtain by way of others ? Aid workers ? Would they really be so keen to help others if there wasn't all the accolades afterwards & if they had to use their own resources ? Bravery awards, medals etc. It's all vanity based not kindness. Why don't we hear about the countless people out there working for crap ? Because there's no glamour in looking after old or other unfortunates in our society, that's why ! We're such a great & kind society when it comes to TV coverage disasters but not on the disasters brought on by us on our own people. Global Aid has been exposed a long time ago as one of the most corrupt outfits. The real heroes are never mentioned & by that I mean people who didn't rake in millions for many years by exploiting others & then get a guilt feeling which they then expect romp & pomp public acknowledgement for.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 3:19:36 PM
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Well, there you have it.

Small Business Owners; The real heroes of society.

PS: I'm generally with you on the ego pay-offs of those people you mention. There is no truly selfless deed.

I just don't happen to believe...

Small Business owners do it for the country and for their employees.
People with kids in private schools do it to subsidise the public system.
Ditto private health.
Real estate investors do it so there is houses to rent.
Farmers do it for the good of the country.
People have kids for the virtuous goal of producing future tax payers.

In Summary, small business people will still be small business people regardless of the supposed 'hoops' they must jump through. People will always want kids, enough people will do their damnedest to afford private schools, farmers wont stop being farmers.

None of these groups are doin' us all a favour like they'd have you believe.

None is as wonderful and altruistic as the poor downtrodden single childless office workers on $150k who don't have private health insurance.
Posted by Houellebecq, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 3:50:09 PM
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Ever felt like some one had walked over your grave rechtub.
That was to be the exact title of my next thread.
The similarity ends there however.
I will not be here then, our defense force will be.
And still fighting for, well what it fights for now, us.
I think you will expect America or England to help us if we are invaded is that about right?
Why would they.
In your look after your selves world enemy's would grow stronger daily, see no one would look for them.
A killing ground for those who hate and kill for Gods,
If unemployed are the problem lets stop middle class welfare too subsidy's for business the whole thing.
Show me the party, any of them , that supports your views.
Closest on defense bloke wait for it are the greens.
Are you a closet green?
Not too sure what party wants public flogging for the out of work but long before 2030 both party's will re craft how we pay unemployment benefits ,both sides said this in this election ,doubt starvation action got a run.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 6:08:05 PM
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And still fighting for, well what it fights for now, us.
Belly,
When one looks at the many so-called trouble spots which take up just about all the Allied's resources it isn't all that way-out to think that the trouble spots are created with the agenda of depleting the Allied's resources.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 6:27:51 PM
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"The most secure thing a parent or grandparent can do in this life is to ground their children in Christ. In Him they will weather every storm and will look forward to eternal life. Without Him life is meaningless and leads to eternal death anyway".

No Runner,
The best thing the present generations can do for the young is teach them how to think clearly.

It was the scientific revolution starting with Copernicus and Galileo which allowed the population to creep out from under the yoke of the Christian religion. Some people are still quite ignorant under the control of some religions.

Sure Russia and China tried to overcome the superstition of religion but they those countries were under political tyrants. I am not aware that there has ever been a secular tyrant. The secular movement believes in the separation of church and state.

I am secular in my beliefs. You can believe whatever nonsense you wish, just don't try to apply pressure to change how I live my life.

I won't bore you with details but much of my income and time in retirement is spent helping people less fortunate than me. All I get out of it is the pleasure of making a worthwhile contribution.

My life is not meaningless and you can stick your hope for eternal life. I cannot think of anything more boring.
Posted by Foyle, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 6:50:06 PM
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