Genuine apologies Pelican, my intent was 'some parents lie to ensure they secure their children a placement in some private schools' as a side note within the context of the comments I had made. I do realise many people are honest when filling out admission applications to private schools. Was not a generalisation. Am broadminded. Best wishes.

Good Grief *member of the dark side* Morgan...2 cheap, trashy, snide shots in 2 posts.. that must be a record. But..I must not forget where you dwell..must I?

You should start keeping better company. See what happens when you walk in the dark? But don't worry, I'll be a healing balm to your emotional wounds from Proxy's bite... after all..those of the darkness are to be pitied not hated.

So Boazy - beating your wife is bad, but beating your daughter is OK, according to your cult?

Do they teach that in their schools?

C.J. .....I'm still pitying you, and praying for you :)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+5&version=NIV

verse 23-25

Dear oh dear, Boazy. You've been prattling on about Islam allowing wife-beating, which reminded me of when you regaled us with your story about beating your teenage daughter. My point, of course, is that you're being hypocritical as usual.

Now you post a link to some obscure passage from the Bible, which purports to give "Advice About Widows, Elders and Slaves". It may because I tend to think more rationally than you, but I can't see any relevance in that Biblical claptrap, either to the topic of this discussion or to your unnecessary pitying and praying for me.

From the hysterical and paranoid ranting that you do all too often here, I think that I'm far more mentally balanced and far less worried than you are. Are you allowed to pity and pray for yourself within your cult?

Mind you, this cherrypicking from ancient mythology can be quite fun. I clicked through to chapter 6, which starts thus:

<< 1All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered. 2Those who have believing masters are not to show less respect for them because they are brothers. Instead, they are to serve them even better, because those who benefit from their service are believers, and dear to them. These are the things you are to teach and urge on them. >>

Slavery's OK, as well as child abuse? I think Proxy's right - this appears to be a pretty nasty cult.

Mind you, I can cherrypick some more pleasant stuff from dear old Timothy:

<< Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach >>

No argument here. In fact, I'm settling my stomach with a nice Shiraz right now :)

And I've always quite liked this one:

<< 7For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. >>

No argument with that either.