Oligarch, Im just saying that people that make a habit of defending these peoples extreme views probaly have no australian heritage and dont seem to realise the sacrifice paid by our ancestors to make Australia what it is today.

In my view an Australian is someone who likes the place as it is and can live by the values that it stands for no matter what your background not how long your family has been here.

Its just the people who have recently waltz on in and think they can change everything to suit themselves or worse thier religion. Some of these people arnt even australian citizens.

If it aint broke dont fix it

I take it Audrey that you and your family are happy to live in this 'stolen land'. I think an honest look at history will reveal that our indigineous people are rather fortunate it was the English to settle rather than some others.

Rainier and C.J. Morgan are right about the fact that some of our politicians, other religious nutters and some Islamophobes on OLO have said worse things than this Mufti has said.
Even the Pope was out of line with that anti-Muslim remark in his speech. (But I am sure some will find this debatable).
The media is also guilty of being biased.

BOAZ, the Mufti was totally wrong but you are quick to turn the problem into an opportunity for vilification of Islam.
I looked at your anti-Lebanese video’s and do find them horrifying, but I am sure that some filmer or media person could make just as many clips of Australians behaving badly. It’s all prejudgemental hate-spread.

The Koran makes crazy statements, but so does the Bible.

Yeah sure, Runner, I am sure that the indigenous people are wrapped about that; they're still celebrating.

Country gal,because you were born in Australia does not give you the right to Australian Citizenship.
Children of diplomats,illegal overstayers,etc.
You are born to a tourist visiting Australia.I
In Germany you are not treated as a German national even if your parents live in the country on a work visa,and you were born in Germany.
The Mufti is stating fact that convict descendants arrived centuries after Muslim traders and sailors from the Middle East and Indonesia visited Australian shores.
What a difference education and understanding make to the debate.
Convicts were transported from Britain to Australia because they were rogues who stole handkerchieves and horses.
Todays equivalents,Burglary,and car stealing.A Horse by todays standards would be a luxury car.
In eighteen century Europe nobody but scum would steal.The ten commardments were the LAW.People did not have to lock their horses or homes.
Take up reading history of the world, not about the Ned Kelly Gang,and then presume that you are a professor of history.

RUTAGER,

No disrespect for your grandad but my grandads and grand mums were fighing on this land for (this country) well before WW1.

But these are wars you would know jack about. This land was not peacefully settled! Read some real Australian history maaate!

My point is that we didn't die off (as it was popular desired and required) and you fellas didn't go home - and nor will Muslims - so its time all of your matured you perspectives about race and religious relations.

Boaz, your toxic intolerance is a disgrace for someone who professes to follow the teachings of JC.

The frenzy of bigotry here is unproductive and primitive.

And for the historical record many Muslim families were here well before the post war migration and well before many of your own forefathers/mothers landed here on a plane or ship. And actually if you want to go back further in history their trade relationships with Indigenous peoples in the north - Macasans etcetera - was happenning well before the union jack declared this land stolen in the name of King and Queens in Britain.

So this whole line of discussion about the Mufti saying this or that needs to be put in a broader historical and discursive context.

- Its interesting to note that we have not yet been provided with a literal translation of the whole interview so that everyone understands the context in which the Mufti made those claims.

Unless you all have undying trust in the Murdoch media?

Brock

18th century europe had no welfare system either is it a fair comparison