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The Forum > General Discussion > The Mad Mufti - Again!

The Mad Mufti - Again!

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Sorry life isnt fair or just,

The ones controling the army, the anglo saxons are at present in control of this country. This country was taken at the point of a gun and like all countries is held at the point of a gun (or those in control of the army).

Regardless of muslims being here from way back it was the British army who came out here in ships and using slave convict labour built the first villages and towns (colonies).

If you cant hold a country by arms or numbers then prepare to lose it.
Armed rebels or conquerors dont take any notice of law courts so dont rely on justice to keep your land or country.

Its the same in the animal world those with the muscle hold the territory.
Posted by sharkfin, Saturday, 13 January 2007 8:58:05 PM
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Audrey Apple said: "I find it ironic that most of you are banging on about our inalienable right to this country over the 'invading' Muslims - yet noone has acknowledged the Aboriginals we stole it from."

Audrey, the modern nation of Australia was founded by European settlers, not Aboriginals. It was the blood, sweat, and tears of the early Anglo-Celtic pioneers that laid the foundations for this nation's modern prosperity. I'm not Anglo-Celtic, yet even I recognize this. I don't see why the founders of this nation should have to bow and scrape to an implacable minority consisting only 2% of the total population. In reality, the colonisation of Australia was inevitable. If not by the British, then by somebody else. How well do you think the Aboriginals would have fared under the French? The Spanish? The Japanese? The Javanese?

Nation simply don't build themselves. Rather, nations are a product of their people. Australia's position as one of the world's prosperous nations, as opposed to other colonial creations such as Argentina, is testament to the tenacity and industriousness of the Australian people. The Sheik would be well-advised to take heed of this before he sprouts off about some fallacious sense of Muslim entitlement.
Posted by Oligarch, Sunday, 14 January 2007 1:16:54 AM
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Lets stop that rubbish about a stolen land its junk mail to say the least.
My family is full of our first Australians and for the most part they just claim to be Australians.
A few very badly informed people fail to remember every country in the world has been invaded and we all are a mixture of different races.
We are what we make of ourselfs and over 200 years is enought time to make something other than failure and recrimination for actions of long dead peope as a life.
That multi culturism is a comibation of two cultures not the distrution of ours.
Mufti has a defence he is quite mad.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 14 January 2007 5:54:10 AM
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OK my turn to throw in my bob's worth.

Some of you know from my earlier postings that some of my ancestors were inducted into Aboriginality, spoke a few Koori languages and defended them again persecution in western Victoria. They too were isolated by colonial Australians.

They did, however, keep their Quaker religion and never spoke to the Aboriginal people about it, they were not missionaries or evangalicals. They were so close to treason in earlier Victorian history that the Aboriginal elders ordered them to retreat, and protected them from an unfair situation or undue drama.

In the family archives and the family Bible, the deaths, persecutors and squatters that murdered Aboriginal people are listed. As Quakers, they wrote reports for family reference in detail, but it confidentiality. They never had reason to trust the Government of the time. It is under Aboriginal legal custody and I am not at liberty to disclose which one.

Besides this, nowhere did the archives make offensive statements against common ancestry, to Australian convicts, or even the idea of colonialism itself. It just listed specific injustices and prejudices.

We are also descendants from the convicts. Quakers sometimes were transported as convicts for bogus offences, as an indirect religious persecution at the time. So what does that make us?
Posted by saintfletcher, Sunday, 14 January 2007 4:48:44 PM
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High time for all descendants of all convicts, the genealogical societies, and even tourist partners, to launch a lawsuit against Taj Al Hilali. How dare he belittle our ancestors! Such arrogance and ignorance to assume that they were all "bad people".

Yes indeed, more Australian history please, immediately!

He said sorry to women and got away with it. Now he says sorry to his defamatory statement to Australians with older ancestry putting us in disrepute. What does he think of the Jolly Swagman and Waltzing Matilda? His thugs just don't get it.

John Howard refuses to say sorry to Aborigines simply because he knows that the word in our system carries legal responsibilities. Now Taj Al Hilali says sorry to often, and needs to take responsibility with a legal challenge, not Government persecution. He admits that he was wrong. Some of us have families offended by these remarks. We have a legal right to legally sue him for putting our ancestors in disrepute.
Posted by saintfletcher, Sunday, 14 January 2007 4:49:09 PM
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While it is true our race is full of such storeys we get a little of thread ,me too in not looking at the reasons for our outrage at this madness.
Do not for a second forget this man is bent on his warlike path, that far too many in the Muslim world are indeed wanting to remove us from our culture.
However I can only hope events about to unfold will put someone in place that understands such talk halms the moderate Muslims as much as me.
Next time however you see a march calling for the beheading of non Muslims weight the aledged crime of those people and those of this enemy of multi cuturism and his suporters.
I continue to want answers to questions like, why is Australia and the western world not asking can we live together?
Posted by Belly, Monday, 15 January 2007 5:47:13 AM
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