The churches must know the mood in the community is such that we will brook no more lies,prevarications and delaying tactics.We want the truth and will keep on asking and digging away till we are satisfied that all is out. The churches might just as well make a clean confession of everything ,every misdemeanour, every poor judgement, every thing once and for all and then hope for some peace and an end to the digging and revealing and hope to be forgiven and put into place procedures that will act quickly and decisively and very transparently with future child abuse regardless who the perpetrators are.I believe that faith in the institutions can be renewed or lost forever. The churches must make a choice of conscience and not keep protecting the institutions; the truth alone can do that.
All we are asking for is the truth and transparency in their future dealings with perpetrators. The victims deserve it;the churches should value and protect innocence and not themselves and their power and authority anymore.

socratease

And May Peace be upon Ye *Brother Boazy*

...Dreamy...

MJPB,

Thankyou for the link....it is always good to get several perspectives....but can you show me where your link said....REPORT IT DIRECTLY & IMMEDIATELY TO THE POLICE!

Did you say “The standard Australian program is called Towards Healing?” Did you subconsciously use the word STANDARD?

Don’t victims of sexual abuse deserve more than a STANDARD program?

What would Jesus say? Remember he is watching you! Do you think he is proud of you?

What does this article allege about the payouts through “Towards Healing”? See a problem?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/penny-pinching-justice/story-e6frg6z6-1111114176456

Have you ever read this article? What does this poor victim allege about his treatment?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/07/11/1215658130123.html?feed=fairfaxdigitalxml

Does this one mention "Towards Healing" also?

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2298206.htm

Does this article allege Cardinal Pell wrote a letter to Emma Foster when she was 16?.....http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2304685.htm

See any problems here?

Would you like to change your recommendation on who people should contact after reading the above?

If what the first article alleges is true, would you accept far less than what a civil court might pay you, if your life, had been destroyed from childhood, by sexual abuse?

Do we ever think what Jesus may have meant here?

Matt 7:16-20....Jesus said...http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt%207:15-20&version=NIV

Or here?

Matt 7:12.....http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt%207:12&version=NIV

Do you really understand Jesus' teachings and your Bible?

The thread was always going to be a big one.
We who take part knew we would see true revulsion and true wisdom within it.
I think we knew some would divert if they could, and remind us too often it is not every Catholic priest who is involved.
But we will read more about it in future press, past events and sadly future crimes not yet commited.
The next chapter will be from those priests sent over seas after being highlighted for such crimes.
The instant communications we now have will bring much more information than past century's crimes.
Knowing this the Church must uncover these things not cover them, true followers of that church will remain, IF TRUE ACTION takes place.

In summary then:
The fundamental problem is that the church's power structure is not aligned with it's moral hierarchy.
At the lowest level of this hierarchy are the heterosexual child molesters,
calculating paedophiles who sought a vocation where they could molest boys.
Almost as evil are their heterosexual accomplices who covered up the abuse.
One step higher up come the intolerable "closet queens", whose repressed homosexuality and resultant self-hate
causes them to vomit venom at those at the top of the church moral hierarchy -
the gay clergy who are either proudly out or quietly integrating their sexual preference.
The "closet queens" should therefore be outed so that they can
proudly integrate their sexual preferences with their liberated counterparts.
Furthermore, far from precluding applicants from the priesthood who fancy male-on-male sex,
these should be sought out and promoted to positions of power to ensure that
never again will a choir boy be abused by a heterosexual paedophile.

Dear Proxy,

It's not easy to overcome an
innate bias. However try letting go
of the mouse and turning off the computer.