Oliver

Agree totally with your post. Sexual offenders must be brought to justice before the law. Now. Irrespective of whether their crimes against children were last week or last century.

<< Has any one noticed Sells has made no comment? >>

I suspect that this topic is not abstract enough for the sophistry of Sells. Too much reality not enough dogma.

'Agree totally with your post. Sexual offenders must be brought to justice before the law. Now. Irrespective of whether their crimes against children were last week or last century.'

Be quite a few judges trembling at the thought especially those with a bent for boys.

Lots more priests than judges.

Of course, studying the law is difficult and judges decisions are minutely examined. Pastor just has to entertain the crowd, so I don't expect the same high standards from the church.

Just on the numbers, a thorough auditing of all churches will probably expose more child molesters. How about removing the tax-free status of any church unwilling to be audited? I bet money will ultimately speak louder than "god", to all the churches.

Rusty

Dear Opinionated2,

Thank You for your civilized reaction
to my post, and for equally understanding the fact
that I am merely trying to make some sense of this complex
problem and the reasons why the Church had difficulty
in moving quickly and aggressively in response to
complaints of abuse. Hence the Alan Dershowitz article.

Dershowitz sums it up rather well when he says:

"... MORE MUST be done not only by the Catholic Church but by
all institutions who have experienced hierarchical
sexual eploitation. They must create structures that assure
prompt reporting, a zero-tolerance policy, and quick action...
so long as these processes are consistent with due process and
fairness, not only to the alleged but to the accused as well.
It's easy to forget, in the face of real victims with real
complaints that there have also been false accusations as well.
Processes must be put in place that distinguish true complaints
from false ones ... "

*Foxy Loxy*

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there is a "Master File" containing the names of all of those whom the Vatican considers have had legitimate allegations of sexual abuse and or misconduct made against them.

Thus, there is in my opinion no need for a whole lot of the usual pontification and legal rigmarole, but merely one quick phone call to Plod, and a meeting with a copy of the file being handed over.
(That should include the rest of the mob whom the Vatican believes have had illegitimate charges brought against them incidentally)

..

Of course, the consideration of what happens to those gaoled needs to be carefully considered, and perhaps *Suze* can elaborate on what she may know about the fate of child abusers in prison.

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and *Boazy*
why not consider leaving matters of
*Luv*
within
*GoddO's Soul jurisdiction?*

It is a great sadness to me, and I am sure that I am not the only one, that this schism exists between "us."

Dear Foxy, I have no problems with your comments re making the Catholic Church accountable and transparent in their dealings with allegations of sexual abuse or any other criminal behaviour, now and in the future.

What I also want to see is the alleged Catholic Church clergy child abusers FROM THE PAST made accountable and have a trial and get sent to jail if guilty.

I don't care how old they are now or how long ago it happened.
Do you agree?