Isn't the mounting evidence, which alleges continued failings, indicate, that the management of the organisation is severely flawed?

Has it been seriously flawed for centuries? Read the histories of the Popes.

What has this Pope really done to improve things? Until all records are handed over to the Police in all countries hasn't he just fiddled whilst Rome burned? "Sorry" is a minimalist response.

Could the real problem be the "indoctrination processes" allegedly employed by churches and institutions that lead members to be less worried about the victim and more concerned about the organisation? Foxy, in no way do I think that you are less worried about the victim, this is just a general point on this topic)

If a child is brought into the fold at the earliest possible age, is taught that this is the only group that represents God, is the only route to heaven and salvation, is taught the Pope is infallible, is taught to go to a priest for forgiveness, is taught that only a priest can provide absolution of those sins, etc. etc. then the child is put at great disadvantage.

Didn't some parents believe the priest over their victimised child? Now that is the power of indoctrination!

The Catechism of The Catholic Church is quite specific here

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p2s2c2a4.htm#I

CCC1497 is indicative of the problem...Jesus said pray to God for forgiveness (The Lord's Prayer)...the Church gives man the power of absolution...

But look at the carrots that are dangled in front of the penitent in CCC1496

Recovery of grace, Remission of eternal punishment, Peace and serenity of conscience etc.

The perpetrator sure gets off lightly under this system and with a clear conscience to boot.

If many of these cases were never reported, once known by the Church, they can’t just be talking about spiritual forgiveness, can they?

Lastly in our family, we had a rule…NO SECRETS…as a preventative measure to protect our children.

As the Church is a family, made up of many families, shouldn’t the NO SECRETS rule be even more important and stringently applied?

Surely Child Safety must come first!

Breaking news:
SANTIAGO, Chile, April 12, 2010:
"Vatican's Number Two Official: Homosexuality is the Cause of the Sex Abuse Crisis"
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/apr/10041215.html
Hey, I could have told them that.

Proxy

You will soon learn that the deniers really care more about their pet dogmas than protecting children. That is why they ignore obvious links between homosexuality and child abuse. The same people deny the obvious higher rates of child abuse from non natural fathers in the home. They like to focus on the lesser cases in order to cover up the majority. Another area of denial is the link between porn and child abuse.

Posted by Proxy, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 1:38:58 PM

"Vatican's Number Two Official: Homosexuality is the Cause of the Sex Abuse Crisis"
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/apr/10041215.html

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Ah yes, most excellent *Boazy* Do please bring them into the *OLO SpotLight* for us so that we may all have a good look at them.

Well done, good show, pintar sekali.
;-)

I was invited to witness a spiritual renaissance at work within the RC church.A priest specialist mediator and counsellor was visiting a group of some 30 - 40 assembled in the home of a devout catholic family that had icons and statues in every room. He said that God was working a spiritual awakeninmg in the hearts and souls of his people by making them understand how to forgive. This was the start of a pastoral offensive to re-capture disgusted sceptics in the fold. The people go to church but get nothing from it, he said, and have forgotten how to love and forgive. This was a new beginning.He pleaded with them in breaking voice and quavering voice to forgive all errant priests and to let them make a fresh start.

So God had set up innocent children to be sodomised and made sex objects to horny priests,bishops cardinals and the pope in order to work a secret new renaissance and spiritual awakening.

I dont know how I didnt vomit there and then.
It gets worse and worse by the day.

socratease

It's not a cover-up: It's Gays and the Jews:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gnpDKs8IpZ8wQ3_kz6yCg3UoyPKAD9F1Q5C00

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7095471.ece

Parishioners should press parish priests (most of whom I trust are at some level are disgusted with the Church)to have a Protest Sunday and not say Mass. They can say two the next week, if they like. But the point is, that everyone religionist and skeptic alike, must be fed-up with this rotten element in the Catholic Church. Forget vows of obiedence. If genuine priests believe in their God, surely protecting children must take precedence over covering for their Bosses and wayward peers.

If the Church has any documention that will help the police on cases authotities have missed, the Church must be proactive and hand over all records ASAP. The police can drag 80 year-old past offenders out of their retirement homes, for all I care.

Courts will give priests fair trials. More justice that paedophile clerics gave their victims.

Has any one noticed Sells has made no comment?