Writing slow Proxy.
Pedophiles can be male of females as can be their victims and homosexuals are no more likely to be pedophiles than anyone.
Look back in ten years and see either the catholic church will have addressed this issue or be well on its way to death.

Ayo *Boazy* Tidak usah malu sama Saya.

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I've been listening to some Oz Hip Hop and thought to share some lyrics.

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An Audience with the Devil
Copyright © HillTop Hoods - All Rights Reserved
Hard Road - Restrung

(M. Lambert/D. Smith/B. Francis/D. Rankine)
Produced by Trial for Peepshow Entertainment
Written and performed by M. Lambert

Verse 1 Suffa
I was granted an audience in the Devil's maze,
I sat by his throne and we talked for days,
He told me about his ancient battles with arch-angels,
He told me loneliness was a torture most painful,
He said if I filled my lifetime with sin,
I could earn myself a seat that was right by him,
And if I didn't, that was fine by him,
Cos everyday a million souls just fly right in,
He could barely keep up with the souls of all the people,
Its not easy being sole controller of all Evil,
He said So many people want to burn with me,
I swear free wills a b!tch and so's eternity,
So what you learn from me might save you from suffering,
You don't want to see the bowels of the earth rupturing,
Take a breath, suck it in, I got more to tell,
And times of no consequence when you're in Hell, when you're in Hell, you're in Hell! you're in Hell!

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The Devil:

" ... Mankind has progressed to a point in its dimwitted history, where life has been drained of all its enchantment. ... "

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Verse 2 Suffa
I had a lot of questions
I asked the devil to explain
Why do I always think that people have it in for me?
And why do I always feel like the sky's closing in on me?

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Chorus
Sitting with the devil, this is what I learned,
Apart from the ways a human soul can be burned,

It's if we don't learn from our mistakes were condemned,
To make those same mistakes, again and again,

And time keeps, time keeps slipping away,
Like I keep, I keep slipping away, ...

I'd be ashamed too.

You missed the point, Proxy. Probably deliberately.

>>It's interesting that Roman Polanski has been brought into this debate. Many in Hollywood have defended Polanski's actions. What makes them different from those who covered up the actions of 4% of priests?<<

Those in Hollywood who have "defended Polanski's actions" (who might they be, by the way?) do not have the power to shield him from the authorities.

Or, looked at another way, the authorities do not consider Polanski's defenders to be sufficiently influential to prevent his extradition.

>>Is anybody in the church publicy defending the actions of abusive priests?<<

Not as far as we can see. But privately, they clearly didn't see the priests' abuse as meriting prosecution. Which is why they kept moving them around.

Which is the more honourable course of action? To state publicly what you think, or act privately to prevent the abuser from being tried for his actions?

>>It's comforting for those on a mission to single out the Catholic Church but this phenomen transcends any single institution.<<

Don't forget it was the church that singled itself out, by protecting serial sexual abusers from prosecution.

"Comforting" doesn't enter into it.

And the only "mission" should be the church putting its house in order.

>>Deviant sexuality is the problem.<<

Believing that deviant sexuality doesn't warrant trial and incarceration, is the problem.

Denial is not the answer, Proxy.

mjpb,

Nope I'm not a JW...are you for real?...lol. And I am not a fundamentalist of any sort although you are starting to sound like one...lol.

Now back to the good old Bible.

Notice how I put links to the passages I quote...if you have time please try it...It saves me time....I follow the rule "Do unto others..."...lol

Matthew 7:12....http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:12&version=KJV

You stated in relation to John 20:23 and the confessional "Why? What He said works for me" BUT that is the crux of the problem...God gave precise instructions on Noah's ark Genesis 6:14-16...http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genisis%206:14-16&version=KJV

The Ark of the Covenant Exodus 25:10-22....http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2025:10-22&version=KJV

but he neglected to give instruction on the Confessional...amazing. Jesus might have had a bad day that day.

It seems to me that on one hand Christ is all knowing and all seeing, and yet when people are in desperate need of help he appears not.

Where was he when the victims of all these atrocities against children occurred? Did the children who were abused pray for his intercession? Surely a child in so much pain must pray earnestly!

So what can be said now about prayers for intercession? They don't seem to work!....John 14:14 “You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it”

You didn't reply to the question of a criminal priest (not yet caught or worse known but hidden) hearing confessions...How does that work?

Does a criminal priest have the ability to absolve sin?

Infallibilty...the Catholic Encyclopaedia sure is long winded about this topic...lol...http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm

And now this…If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck…Is it a duck?

http://player.sbs.com.au/naca/#/naca/wna/Latest/playlist/Pope-s-letter-scandal/

Is this Pope damaged goods? Is the organisation more important than the victim?

Are you surprised that an organisation, who represents sexually abused people, like Broken Rights is a little anti-catholic?

Are you sympathetic to these victims or is your attitude part of the problem?

"by the standards of the time..." - Vatican Lawyer

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/pope-acted-expeditiously-on-molestation-vatican/story-e6frg6so-1225852463752

What a lame excuse. Protecting child molesters is a crime now and was in 1985.

Moreover, secular authorities seem to be not without blame:

"Kiesle, who was arrested in 1978 and given three years' probation after pleading guilty to molesting two boys, was defrocked in 1987." -Australian

Seems the State gave a very light sentence indeed. Meanwhile, Kiesle, retained in a job of a position of trust for almost ten years, which no doubt many a paedophile with would be envious of. The State should not be giving these vile people "get out of jail free" cards, because they are clergy.

Religious skeptics aside, the religious laity really need to be proactive and not be the Sheep, their Churches would have them be.

Theologically, the idea that Christians cannot be held responsible to secular authorities could be link the concept of "justification be faith alone" or "antinomianism". That is, if God has forgiven their sin, how can mere mortal man punish them for a crime? Maybe, some neo Lutherian would be happy this case. I prefer, "render unto Caesar".