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Monckton's New Party Concept

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I am afraid I only see more evidence of lost and isolated opinion in your post arjay.
And I still firmly, think our party's evolve to follow voters, are in fact different party's than those of yesterday with the same name.
Truly I am stunned true, that any one can put fears of a communist or socialist one world government on the table.
To think one is possible surely is strange.
Capital controls us and if ever we got such a government, I do not know if it would be so bad, it would still be in charge.
Facts.
election Australia 2010.
ALP and Rudd with an increased majority.
Do you think, even a small bit? voters do not know what they are doing?
Alan Jones?what can I say he wrote speech's for his party of choice Liberals, is as unbalanced as Piers Ackerman, and not worth listening to, unless you are looking for a grin.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 January 2010 4:26:28 AM
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Belly the communist world Govt was on the agenda.Go to Monckton's site
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ It was hidden in the Copenhagen Treaty and Rudd according some,was involved in writing it.The carbon taxes were going to used to finance it.Guess what Belly,neither you or I would have a vote in the decisions they would make.

It was to be the New Wrold Order heralded by GHW Bush back in 1992.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 22 January 2010 4:52:38 PM
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Jesus said an unrepentant heart and unless your mind is renewed by the word that you can't possibly understand let alone see the kingdom of God. Everyone is lost so without a change of direction and mind we all continue wandering around lost in our own thoughts. ALL have sinned and fallen short. There is Nothing we can do "except" believe in the finished work of the cross and trust in Jesus even in his name. Man hasn,t got the answers in his own ability or experience even if he is foolish enough to think he has. Third world countries did nothing for the Y2K2 bug because they did not have the money. I am ashamed to say the sun still rose out of the east the next day and all of man,s efforts accounted for nothing. Copenhagen has come and gone and the sun still rises from the east. Our pastor died on friday night aged 56 which only proves Gods word that nobody knows the hour or the day he will die. Kev did everything humanly possible to manage his life but he went the way we all will go. so it does not matter what we believe Gods word is true.So if we want the blessing instead of the curse we have to humble our self and do it Gods way. All of mans ways without God finish in death. The only thing we have control of is our choices and they determine our final destination. So I give you again Jesus new commandment, put God first and love one another.
Posted by Richie 10, Saturday, 23 January 2010 11:16:47 AM
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Richie 10,finding solace in religion is all good and well,but it will not change a thing unless we the people stand up and fight for our freedoms.Brave Heart,"They can take our lives but will never take our freedoms!" That is the basic urge in all good men and women,since without it,we cannot develop to a higher level of consciousness.

A nation of obedient drones is impotent,boring and in the throes of decay.We should never let a good GFC go to waste.This is a time when the pendulum of fairness can swing back in favour of ordinary folk.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 23 January 2010 2:37:21 PM
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Dear Ajay,
I do not find solice in religion I look to Jesus for abundant life not an igsistance. King David was a man after Gods own heart and a very human man, a warior and tactition in the art of warfare so I am sure you misunderstand God and his relationship with man . Christians are not diferent only forgiven by the finished work of Jesus not by works that we might boast. God does not condenm he gives hope for abundant life on earth and eternal life in the life to come and we perish from lack of knowledge. when we chose to follow man we take our fate in our own hands . Knowledge does not just come you must seek it out. Education is not confined to the class room , If you are not continuly expanding your knowledge you are ill equipt to live the abundent life and are dying for the saying if you don't use it you lose it is true.If God has called Lord Munkton to start a new political party it will susceed otherwise it will wither on the vine.
Richie10
Posted by Richie 10, Saturday, 23 January 2010 7:12:46 PM
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What a fascinating glimpse into the biblical mind, Richie 10.

>>King David was a man after Gods own heart and a very human man, a warior and tactition in the art of warfare<<

That's a beautifully primitive image. You are imagining that a warrior-king is a "man after God's own heart", as if God has specific preferences.

The Romans had the same approach to their gods, picturing them in different situations as being all-seeing and all-powerful. They too prayed to them for help, and imagined that they were, fundamentally, simply amplified versions of humans.

"Mars for example was the god of war. This meant he was good at fighting and it meant that he had most of all the soldiers at heart. A Roman soldier would hence most likely pray to Mars for strength in battle."

http://www.roman-empire.net/religion/religion.html

Remarkably similar to your own view, "a warrior and tactitian in the art of warfare". Could be the same guy, really.

One of the more impressive aspects of the pantheist approach was the lack of friction between the gods and their worshippers. You wouldn't find anyone boasting of the superior power of his chosen favourite, or beating up anyone who didn't share his preference.

It is also quite encouraging that we now consider these beliefs to be somewhat odd. To think that people, in their everyday life, used to sacrifice animals to their chosen god, seems bizarre. There is every likelihood that future generations will come to think of the present obsessions with different variants of religion, and the rituals that attend them, as equally bizarre.

After all, there is an identical lack of logic in worshipping one god, as there was in worshipping multiples of them.

As Richie 10 says, in his own unique way...

>>If you are not continuly expanding your knowledge you are ill equipt to live the abundent life<<

I'll buy that.
Posted by Pericles, Sunday, 24 January 2010 4:14:49 PM
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