Poor old dickie is still getting her nickers in a twist :)

Dickie, if chucks are a problem, in WA you can buy Mt Barker
free range, no need for factory farmed chucks. Or you can
eat the free range lamb, no factory farming there either
and we know what they eat. Or perhaps you could choose
the free range pork.

As for inspectors, I remind you that the Govt has just
appointed another half a dozen inspectors dealing with
animal welfare. But we don't live in Nazistan either,
no inspectors peeking through every window to check on
everyone, all the time, thank Allah for that ! :)

The point is, yes, stuff gets reported, by the public,
staff,whoever so action is taken. That means the system is
working fine and problems are dealt with, one way
or another.

Luckily you have no say in Govt, as with your Nazistan
idea of inspecting everyone for everything, I can
think of nothing worse!

Dickie, time to untwist those nickers, sit back and
smell the roses :)

Hi Nicky

The following is a letter to the Editor in today's West Australian on the abominable treatment of animals dying in their own filth at a WA piggery:

"Piggery Filth"

"Your report and picture about the disgraceful treatment of pigs, not for the first time, needs immediate attention from State welfare groups that have avoided this far too long.

"It beggars belief that it continues, unheeded by those employed to control animal living conditions and general welfare.

"Things have never been so ignored - the size of cages for housing and the slaughtering and exporting.

"It is inhumanity at its very worst."

And the cretins among us continue to support these heinous practices!

Hi all
Yes, I read the story about the WA pig farm, and it is probably not a whole lot worse than many other pig farms. The pig "industry" admitted in a report I read that many sow stalls do not conform with the "industry's" OWN Code of practice (and they said "that's just too bad...").
Yabby, as for Nazism - I have to tell you that we have a reactive system for animal welfare rather than a proactive one (i.e. the authorities only respond when other so-called "extremist" groups expose these animal concentration camps and they are forced to do so - yes, even in WA). Does anyone remember the "Four Corners" program "A Blind Eye", in June 2004? That said it all really. Inspections of intensive farming operations should be frequent and without warning. Meanwhile, here in Tasmania, the stabber of puppies remains unapprehended, the monster who starves animals (mostly horses) to death has managed to get another series of adjournments, and the same for the Carrick bull tragedy perpetrators (the court was just TOO BUSY on the day!). The man who starved 150 sheep (+ almost 1,000 more) remains at large on his sheep property, as does the man who starved the cattle (and severely neglected 150 sheep)on his farm. Here, it is not even a reactive system. NOTHING happens. I think strong letters to the Tasmanian Law Society might be useful, cc'd to the media.
From Jenna

Well Nicky
You certainly take the cake. You go on about wanting to really do something about animal welfare. You were given that very oportunity before Christmass. You were even offered the sum of five thousand dollars to work on this doc with our lawyers.
Not a reply. Not even manners enough to say you were not interested.
Yes trivial penalites are the norm in Australia.
We strated threads named churches Turn their Back On Animal Welfare. These threads were the most busy I have seen on OLO,
Unless you shame the Churches into doing their God Dam job Nothing will change and it is! their job as leaders.
Also we need people that want to do more than just post here.
If you had of been serious you would! have got back to us.
Even if you had basic manners.
clearly you are neither
Antje

What a pity someone has infiltrated this thread for what seems to be no better purpose than starting a slanging match. I wouldn't dignify that with an answer if I were you, Nicky.
From Jenna

Thanks for that, Jenna. I won't, except to say that I did tell these people quite clearly I was not in a position to help them at the time and that money was not an issue. I did, however, give them advice on what they needed to do to sustain a business case, and there are plenty of consultants around who could have "run with that". As you say - an excellent thread has now, sadly, become a slanging match as it does every time these people get involved. They can be so insulting on occasion that I am surprised that some ban hasn't been imposed on their postings. As for the churches, I do know that some people are working on that.
Jenna, I hear that the case of the rodeo bull in Tasmania that was to be heard in January was adjourned because the court was "too busy". Is that for real?
Nicky.