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Why has Islamic fundamentalism intensified?
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Posted by Bazz, Monday, 4 January 2010 6:35:33 AM
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All of you, including Foxy, have drifted away from the initial question "Why do these people set out to kill themselves and as many as possible?"
this has nothing to do with poverty, the warped minds designing these obscene acts have a big 'Quid' to buy arms and base chemicals to wage their 'Holy War' and so force the world into some 'Dark Age'empire ruled by religious fanatics who beleave they are the font of all knowledge and behold any who disagrees. People, please return to the topic - WHY do they do these dastardly deeds on behalf of of these warlords? Why do they cover their 'cowardly faces'? 'To go into paradise'? Is not the heven the residence of the meek and pure of hart? I am so happy to be a non beiever - these foul thoughts never enter my mind to ponder. This is why i would like a simple answer from a 'Believer' as to; WHY become a mass murderer and the reason? That is the Queston. Posted by JMCC, Monday, 4 January 2010 8:32:54 AM
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Okay, I can't hold it in anymore.
This topic has split into two TIERS of intelligences (the upper being myself and a handful of others actually analyzing all possible points- and answering much of the question but would like to see the few others expand or critique them), while the other half seems to have taken the junior-debaters route and have spent (LONGER than us answering the question) arguing if Islam and Christianity are different or not- the worst part is some of the upper tier debaters are actually responding to the morons- DON'T BOTHER- it's obvious that they never even bothered to read the first few replies (full of informed analysis) before adding their 'important' opinion. Can someone please create a "Why has Islamic Fundimentalism Intensified- FOR DUMMIES" (or "The difference between Islam and Christianity") thread for the latter group to continue do whatever it is they do? I'd do it, but I'd worry that if I made it the group would avoid it knowing that they would have to officially recognize themselves as a lesser level of debate. Okay, look: -Islam is a different religion from Christianity, it's super evil! -The Muslim world includes a lot of Feudal countries, and thus has millions of fanatics- the secular, modern post-enlightenment West only has a few like Runner. -NOBODY ELSE CARES Can anyone caught up in this subject just MOVE ON? No seriously, it's embarrassing- it's like a town hall political debate room being taken over by a kindergarten class. Posted by King Hazza, Monday, 4 January 2010 9:05:46 AM
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JMCC,
<This is why i would like a simple answer from a 'Believer' as to; WHY become a mass murderer and the reason? That is the Queston.> The answer to your question is ludicrously simple. Major Nidal Hasan is a 'Believer'. Major Nidal Hasan is an Islamic mass murderer. Where did he find his justification? He made a power point presentation to demonstrate his reasoning. Here is his "simple answer from a 'Believer': http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2009/11/10/GA2009111000920.html It's all in the Koran. "There is none so blind as he who will not see." Posted by HermanYutic, Monday, 4 January 2010 9:18:05 AM
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Herman, do you condone the killing of innocends in the name of God.
I had a look at the US blog regarding the good Major. But are you saying we should blindly follow a set of thoughts written by an unknown scribe over 1500 years ago. What nonsense in 2010. Please, Please start thinking in a logical manner so that people of good will will start to turn this evil against humanity. Posted by JMCC, Monday, 4 January 2010 10:31:30 AM
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Thanks for that link Foxy.
Fisk is one of the few journalists I trust. He knows and lives with the people he writes of and has never shirked putting himself in the dangerzone to report on it. This comment says it all in my book. "There are plenty of poor countries in the world that don't have violence because amid the poverty there is a kind of justice and in some countries a democracy. The violence stems from injustice, because people feel they have been treated unfairly, whether that means military occupation, starvation under U.N.! sanctions, whether it means that they have a dictatorship imposed on them, propped up by the West. This is why people turn to violence, because they have no other avenue left." People are neither Rousseau’s noble savage nor the Church’s depraved sinner. They are violent when oppressed, gentle when free. Posted by mikk, Monday, 4 January 2010 10:39:41 AM
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Re India, Britain tried to prevent the division, but ultimately they
were powerless to stop it.
The Celtic vs the other team whose name I have forgotten goes back
further than immigration to Ireland, it goes back to the Irish
immigration to Scotland, or rather Pictland as it was then called.
That whole western section centred on Glasgow was Irish and spoke Gaelic.
Now here is a lesson for those that promote unfetted immigration.
1500 years later they are still fighting.
Suzie, you didn't really answer my question.
The present truce may indicate that they would not engage in
religious cleansing if they were "united".
If so it proves that what they were fighting about was not what they
were arguing about.