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Why has Islamic fundamentalism intensified?

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Foxy you set a hard task, no anti Islamists tirade was it?
Already some seem to Be half way into one.
But I must go on record, without doubt I am 100% anti Islam, that is radical Islam.
We will see those who blame Iraq Afghanistan, even 9/11, without any of those events we would have seen the same growth in terrorism.
Why?
I sniff an idea in your opening post, living in a past better left behind, in my view an education to hate not love fellow man.
Some true mega rich in Arab country's seem intent on staying very rich by fomenting trouble within their country's, other targets not them.
I think we must confront the truth, war surely is the most likely outcome, in my view only outcome, of false Friends like some from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
America is not the only target the whole western world is.
No apology's from me I grow weary of the needless murders, spiteful threats and blind hatred.
I view with suspicion any claim this started with the birth of Israel, or that that country is the reason murders are daily events.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 31 December 2009 2:26:35 PM
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YOU EVIL RACIST BIGOTS.
Smearing a whole people as terrorist, extreme, religious fundamentalists is the very essense of racism. Do you people not see this?
What about the christian extremists like Hillsong or the US televangelists? What about Israel and its existence as a virtual Jewish theocracy? What about our support for Saudi and Emirates theocratic dictatorships? What about the wests part in forming Al Queda in Afgahnistan in the 80s? Israels part in the formation of Hamas as a counter to the PLO?

Im sure most Muslims are just like most of us. Caring, polite people who just want to live their lives in peace and care for their families. You cant smear them all just because a few have done evil supposedly in the name of their god. NO single godbotherer can throw stones. All of your religions have at some time practiced murder and evil to further their cause.

A most disappointing and disgusting thread at this time of goodwill and compassion. SHAME OLOers SHAME
Posted by mikk, Thursday, 31 December 2009 2:28:27 PM
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Mikk “Im sure most Muslims are just like most of us. Caring, polite people who just want to live their lives in peace and care for their families.”

Is inconsistent with calling other folk “YOU EVIL RACIST BIGOTS.”

“Hypocrisy” has entered the building

Re “A most disappointing and disgusting thread at this time of goodwill and compassion. SHAME OLOers SHAME”

Blow it out your fundamental orifice
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 31 December 2009 3:03:05 PM
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Yes the moralising religious fruitcakes emerge at every possible occassion.

Mikk. Thread is about fundamentalists, not cultural muslims. Take some valium and a reading lesson.
Posted by TheMissus, Thursday, 31 December 2009 3:08:04 PM
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Mikk
All sorts of things have been done in the name of religion, but you
miss the point.
We either cannot or cannot be bothered to sort out the terrorists from
the rest and why should we bother ?

Just get rid of the lot, it is not our problem then as they can then
continue bombing each other.

BTW, who has Hillsong blown up ?
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 31 December 2009 3:09:04 PM
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Terrorism is not new - remember the IRA, the German Red Army and Italian terrorist groups all nothing to do with Islam until recent times (barring Munich Olympic Games which for the first time took Islamic fundamentalism outside of the Middle East).

At its heart, terrorism has little to do with religion although fundamentalist religious fervour is used to drive poor impressionable people to become suicide bombers or commit other acts of terrorism.

The influence of the West is very much at the heart as well as the influence of economic disparity, distribution of resources, quality of life issues and corrupt regimes within those nations where terrorism thrives.

It is not such a great stretch to imagine those in power or those who hold the wealth in those countries stir the flames of dissent to deflect blame to outsiders (like the West) which also serves to absolve them of their own greed and corruption; and where there is usually huge disparity between the very oil rich sheikhs and ordinary Muslims.

Politics is very much about perceptions and whoever controls or is able to manipulate the perceptions will wield the greatest influence particularly for poor Muslims who do not have access to education and have been whipped into a religous frenzy of self-righteousness which in their mind justifies even the most heinous of crimes. This phenomena is not reserved just for Muslims but is part of many more extreme religious crusades.

Terrorists or revolutions do not come mysteriouly out of the mist - there is usually a sense of injustice having been perpetrated by one or more common enemies. Inteference by the West in Afghanistan, Iraq and the West's allegiance to Israel lies at the heart of this historical conflict.

The IRA was formed as a result of injustices perpetrated by the English. It became on the surface a struggle between Catholicism and Protestantism but it was in essence nothing to do with religion but ownership of land and who rules.

IMO there is no intensification just more of the same. The most recent event was probably planned some time ago.
Posted by pelican, Thursday, 31 December 2009 4:27:57 PM
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