Dear Belly,

We are willing to label Hitler,
Stalin, Pol Pot and Idi Amin
as sub-human zealots - why
not those who preach religious
hatred against others who won't
accept their fanatical views?

Today's extremists were taught to
be bad people, yet they believe they're
good people - God's chosen people,
whether Jew, Christian or Muslim.
And they believe that if you can't be
good - then you should be put to death -
if you're not one of the chosen few.

"We should invade their countries,
kill their leaders and convert them
to Christianity ..."
(Ann Coulter - American newspaper columnist
Sept. 2001).

"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance
wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred
wash over you. Yes, hate is good. Our goal is
a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty,
we are called by God to conquer this country..."
(Randall Terry - "The New Sentinel" Fort Wayne,
Indiana).

"When I, or people like me are running the country
you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will
try you and we will execute you. I mean every word of it
I will make it my mission ... "
(Randall Terry - on doctor's who perform abortions).

"Ladies and Gentlemen...Only Christianity offers a
comprehensive worldview that covers all areas of
life and thought, only Christianity offers a way to live
in response to the realities that we find in this world...
Only Christianity!"
(Tom DeLay - House Majority Whip - Republican -
Texas- 2002).

"The Church has through the centuries understood
that ideas are really more dangerous than other
weapons..Their use should be restricted."
(Francis J. Lally, American Roman Catholic Monsignor).

"There is justification for killing babies if it is
clear that they will grow up to harm us!"
(Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro - from his book -
"The King's Torah" - he invigorates Jewish
teaching for future generations).

Dear Belly,

The point that I'm trying to make is
that religious extremists come in all
shapes and sizes and are not restricted
to only one religion.

yes i should have been more clear, Belly.
i meant ALL men, you, me AND some sick brother in islamabad.
starts with Australian men being equal with Australian women
as it did with franchise at the first opportunity on federation.
from franchise to an equal rights republic, wars are first won at home.

Foxy is confused between white supremacist such as Ann Coulter and Christianity.

Organisations like the KKK think of themselves as "Christian" but they are just white supremacist.

In examining Christianity one should consider what the Christian scriptures says, especially the New Testament , e.g.

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free,…”

“The commandments…are summed up in this word: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Fundamentalist Christians are not very successful in engaging Islamists because they get their butts kicked by turning the other cheek.

Foxy needs to examine the Islamic scriptures instead of running away and dismissing the challenge put forward by HermanYutic.

A good start is a book on Islam by Wafa Sultan “A God Who Hates”.
http://www.amazon.com/God-Who-Hates-Courageous-Inflamed/dp/0312538359

Mr Tang,

Again you missed the point completely
that was being made in my previous post.
But never mind.

Ann Coulter was only one of the
quotes I gave - however she still
was relevant to the issue of religious
extremists - which she is considered to
be in the US.

Speaking of quotes ...

There are quotes that can be taken from
the Bible that will make Osama Bin Laden
look like a Boy Scout. Both from the Old
and New Testament as I've stated in a
previous post.

http://www.evilbible.com/

As for your recommendation of the book on Islam -
I've actually got the six volume series -
"Great Religions Of Modern Man,"
edited by Richard A. Guard. I've read them all -
and have recently re-read the volume on Islam by
John A. Williams. I can highly recommend it to
you (if you'd be interested in reading a scholarly
book on the topic that is).

This will be the last time that I shall be
responding to you. I find that for me this
thread has run its course - I've said all I
can on the subject and its time to move on to
another thread.

Perhaps you'd like to start one on a controversial
topic?

If you do Foxy I'll probably have to follow as I think there's little left to analyze (especially if the people taking the issue seriously are starting to leave)- but it was a good topic even despite some of the less constructive contributors as the rest of us definitely covered a lot of points and largely dissected the issue without them.