Her man
Speaking of cloud cuckoo land. Has it ever occured to you that maybe mr Abdulmutallab could be mentally ill? Trying to blow yourself and a hundred or so people out of the sky seems pretty insane to me. But then so does talking to imaginary superfriends in the sky and following ridiculous fictions like "trickle down" economics.

One explanation for all those uni students responses is the solidarity they feel with their countrymen and fellow oppressed peoples. Would you not feel inclined to support those you saw as family or neighbors if they were being downtrodden and subject to injustice? Why is it so strange to you that people would be supportive of their own when they were in crisis?
Even then you cant really state anything more than a few students at english universities think bad things. You cant use it to say they are all terrorist muslim extremists. Makes me wonder why you brought it up. It looks mightily like racism to me.

I agree Mikk. Intelligence and education does not always mean a person will not take up arms against the perceived oppression of their people. Just that it is usually in those countries where inequities are greater than terrorism might be fostered.

Religious fundamentalism certainly adds to the fervour of a would-be terrorist but it is not, IMO, the impetus of the hatred that leads to such behaviours. Religous hatred of others who are different can only be fostered if those other essential stimuli are present - poverty, injustice etc.

It is too simplistic in my view to put it all down to pure religious hatred in it's own right without this backdrop. There is often a complex combination of factors that lead to terrorism that might be different depending on cultural variation and the like.

Terrorism and revolutions don't occur when populations are content. Generally those who are well fed, educated and where the quality of life is more than reasonable and where there is some sense of self determination do not revolt.

Do you think the French Revolution would have occurred if the elites had not squandered money, took special priveleges and where the burden of taxes was totally placed with the citizens; where poverty and injustice was rife. Throw religious fervour into the mix such as with Islamic Fundamentalism and you have an explosive situation.

Whether we like it or not we in the West have to rethink the way we relate to other nations and behave in a fairer and more egalitarian way. This does not excuse terrorism. Terrorism in fact makes the situation worse and does not highlight in any meaningful way the plight of those in those nations where terrorism takes root.

Foxy,

I don't recall ever using the words bigot or intolerant to describe either Islamic fundamentalists or other posters.
Even when mikk addressed some posters (including me?) as
<YOU EVIL RACIST BIGOTS>
I did not respond in kind.
And what was your response to her outburst?
<Mikk, I apologise if I've caused you distress>
Summarising:
You criticise me for calling people bigots, when I didn't.
You apologise to mikk when she called people (me?) EVIL RACIST BIGOTS.
Is it any wonder that some of us are struggling to understand what's going on in your minds?
Sorry, but I find it incredible.

But that won’t stop me from pointing out perceived inconsistencies in her statements.
Yes, people are entitled to their opinions.
Yes, I'm entitled to point out why I think they're wrong.

eg <This is why people turn to violence, because they have no other avenue left> - mikk
wrong - Abdulmutallab did not turn to violence because he had no other avenue left.
He was an example cited in your original post if you remember.

eg <They are violent when oppressed, gentle when free.> - mikk
wrong - Abdulmutallab was not oppressed.
I didn't even laugh at the "gentle when free" bit, so give me some credit.

As for implying me into the same camp as Islamic fundamentalists,
that is a dirty, low down tactic,
but one that I've come to expect from incorrigible relativists.

I am not calling for the death of those who don't believe what I believe,
but those of the opposite (your?) political persuasion (is that why she got a free pass?)
scream YOU EVIL RACIST BIGOTS.
I wonder who is the fundamentalist?

BTW
Cloud Cuckoo land is "an imaginary place where you say people are
when they seem optimistically out of touch with reality"
Not such a harsh put down.

I can't imagine how Foxy might find Herman Yutic biogoted and intolerant, nor how mikk might think him racist.

I mean, Herman thinks he's so clever at continuously expressing bigotry, intolerance and racism without actually directly expressing such sentiments.

How dare anybody suggest such things about such a clever troll.

Back to your porcelain cave, Grogan.

I'd rather be a tolerant 'Grogan' than a bigoted, intolerant, racist bogan.