Whats wrong with the ETS ?
It is redundant, that is what is wrong.
Global warming is over, it is a none event now.

This is probably the first information where the data has been examined
in detail since the emails were published.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/climategate.html

I would expect that there will be many more developments like this.
Towards the end the New Zealand data is shown to have been fiddled.
The original unadjusted data is still available and shows that New
Zealand has not warmed for 100 years.

Oh well what will we argue about now ? Peak Oil, Hi !

the fast collapsing farce...continues to unravel...im figuring maybe they lied about tha dangers of nuke power...[HALF THE PRICE OF COAL?]

seems to me a nuke station rounds off...arround a billion...one years income from the tax...could build 120 of the sukkers...and we get half price power..for a quater of a centuray

those wind mills..arnt reliable...no wind..no power...solar cells will need replacement...[after gradually declining..after as little as ten years...but no sun...no power...it seems to me that 5 nuke stations...in the latrobe...coulds gradually shut down them dirty/[but cheap]..coal fired stations

think...we only need to make steam...from nuke...pipe it into the current generators...heaps of jobs in that one...then take the coal/nuke.. conversion globally....further all the radioactive stuff gets put..from where it was mined from...in the first place

the ets...is a huge tax...and nothing comes close to coal..[except for nuke]...new gen from china..dont even need..heavey water...it has these baseball looking black balls...that arnt radio active

we have to reduce...co2...
well for less than the bailout/handout...
we can build them beside the coal stations...using the same egsistant/infastructure...and get cheaper electricity...

lol...and who needs ya new tax
heck lets build 120 of em...
from one year of what the tax..would have been...and sell off hydrogen

http://www.infowars.com/climategate-deniers-in-denial/

the Guardian and its ilk,..conveniently,..remain completely silent.

The leaked emails from the Hadley centre..reveal that..(now former)..CRU chief Phil Jones has received 55 endowments..since 1990 from agencies ranging from the U.S. Department of Energy..to NATO,..worth a total of £13,718,547,..or approximately $22.6 million.

$19 million..alone came..between the years 2000 and 2006.

Massaging the scientific data,..hiding a decline in temperatures,..hijacking the peer-review system and blackballing dissenting scientific opinion..does not look good for Jones..in the context of such financial gain.

Another document leaked from the CRU,..titled potential-funding.doc,
http://ukginger.net/FOI2009/FOIA/documents/potential-funding.doc

..lists sources of potential funding and shows that the scientists..considered pressing..“energy agencies”..that specifically deal in new technology to reduce carbon emissions.

Three agencies..listed as potential sources of funding..are UK based Carbon Trust,..the Northern Energy Initiative, and the Energy Saving Trust...Renewables North West,..an American company promoting the expansion of solar,..wind, and geothermal energy,..is listed as a fourth potential benefactor.

Of course.. all these potential financial backers..have a vested interest in maintaining the conception..that human-induced global warming is a reality..backed by science.

In an article entitled Climategate:..Follow the Money,
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB40001424052748703939404574566124250205490.html

..columnist Bret Stephens at the Wall Street Journal..points out that the funding of climate skeptics..is a drop in the ocean compared to the huge industry..that human-driven climate change science has spawned.
http://www.infowars.com/climategate-exposes-huge-climate-fear-industry/

al gore...first carbon billionare
http://www.prisonplanet.com/al-gore-set-to-become-first-carbon-billionaire.html

http://www.infowars.com/climategate-outrage-explodes-as-carbon-tax-agenda-collapses/

http://www.infowars.com/carbon-cops-on-the-sundance-channel/

http://www.infowars.com/flashback-greenpeace-leader-admits-arctic-ice-exaggeration/

http://www.infowars.com/gore-says-supercomputing-can-be-killer-app-in-climate-change/

http://www.infowars.com/gm-crop-skeptics-emotional-government-food-watchdog-report-claims/

http://www.infowars.com/penn-state-will-investigate-climategate/

http://www.infowars.com/obamas-prestige-on-the-line-in-copenhagen-with-climate-deal-far-from-certain/

http://www.infowars.com/inhofe-requests-hearings-on-climategate/

UOG, I think too many of your links are to the ratbag end of the
commentary scale.

A few simple points.
That there is sufficient statements in the emails alone to justify an enquiry.
It appears that the University has started an enquiry as Prof Jones
has stood down from his position.
A complaint has been made to the police of fraud with government funds.
A US senator has called for a US enquiry as some US scientists may be
involved.

Certain scientists had their papers refused for what appears to be
no good reasons, except they did not agree with the CRU policy.
They should be invited to resubmit.

It will take a considerable time for others to analyse the data and
produce reports. Also others will have to go back to square one and
produce reports not using any data from the UEA.

In my opinion, there is sufficient doubt for a cessation in very
large expenditure. Expenditure in energy saving especially of
petroleum products should continue as they will be needed anyway
no matter what the upshot of all this is.

That could take more than a year.
The Copenhagen conference will not discuss this matter except over coffee.
They are going to discuss spending Trillions with this cloud hanging
over their heads. I think they are too far down the road to turn
around no matter what evidence shows up.
The political scandal would collapse governments if Monckton is right.
He must be confident as he could be sued for what he has written.

we don't have all that time..to sift through the emails.

So here are a couple of video..overviews...
1. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTSDK3QpMHQ (many emails covered!
2. www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dCzCp9qxM (one email covered
3. www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9IUcps8MfE (various quotes..in relation to.."Climategate"

As having a scientific background and learning..I'm absolutely shocked at these...I'm even more shocked at the response..by certain politicians in power..and the BBC..to do as much as they can to twist and downplay..the revealing of this fraud..the Global Warming Scam.

Looking at the first,..it shows the involvement/with paybacks from Big Oil../..the Oil Companies..to show Global Warming,..where there was in fact a slight decline..in global temperature..(in context,

As was already known.. it is the Oil Companies and the investors in and creditors of Oil Companies..that are the largest investors in and creditors..to Green Companies and other upstarts.

So this is not surprising that the Oil Companies..and those who have interest in them..are putting themselves in the position/to gain from the artificial..and fictitious/Carbon Credit Unit..trading system that is under..the existing banks' control..in the corporate-commercial system.

"The fact is..that..we can't account..for the lack of warming at the moment..and it is a travesty that we can't...The CERES data published in the August BAMS/09 supplement..on 2008.shows there should be even more warming:..but the data are surely wrong...Our observing system is inadequate."

1089318616.txt.."I can't see either of these..papers being in the next IPCC report..Kevin and I will keep them out somehow..even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is..!/Cheers Phil"

1048799107.txt.."To all Peoples of the Earth,..Earth has long been waiting for a truly global/governing body..based on universal values, human rights,..global concepts and democracy...Earth Government might as well be created now,..there is no longer any reason to wait...We are the Earth Community,..and..we..will form the Earth Government. ..."

0962818260.txt/0968691929.txt..show that Shell.(big oil/energy)..is funding CRU. ..They gain from benefiting..from the new Carbon Credit Unit/trading system..imposed on everyone in the global corporate-commercial system

and from the investments..they are making in the new Green/Companies that are going to get huge subsidies..."Had a very good meeting..with Shell yesterday...Only a minor part of..the agenda,"

0926947295.txt..Discussing favoring..CONSISTENT simulations over..REALISTIC simulations;.."It's a political decision"

the connections..of CRU..with the Oil/Company..Shell,..the BBC continued to deny..the Global-Warming Scam/..and called the Global Warming.."skeptics"..and.."deniers"..conspiracy theorists,..ridiculing them...
1. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2vwumRA6oY
2. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rXAYiJmX8

...they use a number of.."logical-fallacies"..to ridicule/those..who oppose..the Global Warming alarmists'..agenda

The BBC's attitude..to covering this up/..and misdirecting..to continue the Global Warming/Scam..is absolutely appalling...Now..they are pretending..the revealing leaked CRU..emails show nothing,..complete denial!

Now..they are..the.."Global Warming Scam"..deniers.

On/..some of the real-data..and real science/out there..given in professional presentations...

Professor Bob Carter...
1. www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI
2. www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8
3. www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXDISLXTaY
4. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQQGFZHSno

Lord Christopher Monckton...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0

http://www.prisonplanet.com/momentum-grows-for-copenhagen-climate-deal.html

http://www.infowars.com/hot-climategate/hot-climategate-debate-scientists-clash-live-on-rt/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/climategate-master-criminal-phil-jones-collected-22-6-million-in-grants.html

http://www.infowars.com/gore-says-supercomputing-can-be-killer-app-in-climate-change/

Climate change:..this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html

Scientists..at the University of East Anglia..(UEA)..have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature/dat.. on which their predictions of global-warming..are based.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/climategate-spells-end-to-the-false-science-of-climate-change.html

Climategate: The Silence..is Deafening from the Corporate Media
http://www.prisonplanet.com/climategate-the-silence-is-deafening-from-the-corporate-media.html

By now most of us..in the alternative media/are aware of the some 61 megabytes of global warming research data..of.emails,..documents,..and computer code released/by whistleblowers..(or hackers),..that have exposed climate scientists,..as the frauds they’ve proven..themselves to be.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/%e2%80%9cclimategate%e2%80%9d-surpasses-%e2%80%9cglobal-warming%e2%80%9d-on-google.html

We’ve had the term..“global warming”..in the lexicon..since well before the Internet...became a household tool,/certainly well before Google itself.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/climategate-for-dummies.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/Lord Monckton: Shut Down The UN, Arrest Al Gore

Appearing on The Alex Jones Show yesterday,..Lord Christopher Monckton went..further than ever/before..in his vehement opposition to the elitists..running the climate change..scam,

calling for the UN..to be shut down..and for fraudulent peddlers of global warming/propaganda..like Al Gore to be arrested..and criminally prosecuted.

UN scientists..turn on each other:..UN Scientist Declares Climategate colleagues Mann,..Jones and Rahmstorf#..’should be barred from the IPCC process’..They are..‘not credible any more’

http://climatedepot.com/a/4100/UN-scientists-turn-on-each-other-UN-Scientist-Declares-Climategate-colleagues-Mann-Jones-and-Rahmstorf-should-be-barred-from-the-IPCC-process--They-are-not-credible-any-more

A UN scientist..is declaring/that his three fellow UN..climate panel colleagues..“should be barred from the IPCC process.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-great-climate-change-science-scandal.html

lots of key word links

http://www.prisonplanet.com/un-scientists-turn-on-each-other-un-scientist-declares-climategate-colleagues-mann-jones-and-rahmstorf-should-be-barred-from-the-ipcc-process-they-are-not-credible-any-more.html