This debate is certainly a very loaded subject!
I don't see how we can judge this Army Officer who killed all his colleagues until we have all the facts. Whether the US Army will let the general public have all the facts is another matter.

In the current 'war' against mainly Muslim perpetrated terrorism, wouldn't a tragic incident like this one help the US cause a little?

I have no doubt that this Psychiatrist was unstable himself when he committed this horrible crime. Whether his religion, army bullying, imminent deployment to Afghanistan, or a mixture of all these were to blame, we may never find out.

I don't think that blame or name calling between religious groups will help in this case or any other acts of violence.

I agree with Whistler, why not let more women run the Governments and religious groups around the world? Surely they couldn't do any worse than the men have done!

It occurs to me that we almost never hear about women going berserk with guns and massacring innocent victims in public places - it's always some man. Clearly, the problem is with men.

Indeed, the thread topic should have been "the muslim that shot everyone at the texas army base is a man"!

:P

"I agree with Whistler, why not let more women run the Governments and religious groups around the world? Surely they couldn't do any worse than the men have done!"
Posted by suzeonline,

Dear Suze,

wasn't there that infamous candidate from Alaska in the last (some of the) USA elections? Women and men have equal opportunity to run for government and religions have differing means of respect for different genders. That is part of the foundations of many religion, and why there is that same old cliche about separation of church and state and everyone who isn't chucked off the electoral list gets to vote.

The nepotism that I read earlier in another thread advocating the support of enraged murderers of people using angry words, by their families, might explain one of the limitations of maternal instinct, on top of the absenteeism from the job due to further family loyalty before all else.

I'd suspect that the alternatives would probably be even more catastrophic than they have become already, because of that sort of myopic attitude, and once again Whistler comes in with another off-topic post of the same standard as the last one I remember.

Back on-topic, isn't shooting people what they teach in the army? That's the idea. The purpose of the army is to shoot people. Why should there be some sort of attack on any particular religion, when shooting people is precisely what the army trains people to do?

CJMorgan, lol!
However, do you realize what you just said?

The religious fundamentalists out there will be raging onto this site for yet another bitter discussion on all the evil, Godless women who have 'millions' of abortions!

When that happens, I am sooo out of here! :)

Maybe you are right Seano. Maternal instinct may come into play if more women were in places of authority, however, we will never truly know unless we give it a go, right?

You surely can't be saying women have equal opportunity within many religious groups? Which ones? Certainly the huge Catholic and Islamic religions don't have any women in the higher offices.

Again I say, surely we could create more peace in the world than the men have done so far?

I believe that we have been 'giving it a go' for the past century, and whatever good or bad we have to deal with together as two genders of the same species, we've all (those of us permitted) cast our votes in the governments that we've elected and must share the consequences.

Incidentally, the one person ever who tried to stab me in my sleep was my ex-wife, suffering mentally from loss of our first child, and PND after our second child was born. I awoke to the shadow she cast running down hallway to bedroom and fended her off. I refrained from having her charged with attempted murder next morning because I knew her word had more power under Australian law than mine would have, and also was loyal to mother of my son. Justifable nepotism?

Last Anglican priest I did community service for was Anna Killigrew, if I remember her name properly after ten years. I was allowed to play the church piano at lunch break, and believe she would have made a very good Australian PM. I hope to explain that I believe in gender equality, but individuals have different strengths and weaknesses. Even today, many things men are generally better at than women, and the same value foir many things women are better than men.

When Australian men are allowed the same 'affirmative-action' given to women, I'll be the first to lobby for women's rights, but it's news after 30 years of it.

For more peace in the world than we have now, we need to return to where men and women look out for each other, and end gender wars. Else we just go on making enemies of each other, but in saying that, I hope you and I can remain colleagues on this forum, and let opinions from both sides be heard without malice.

(Some of the off-topic rhetoric here is a little malicious)