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the guy that shot everyone at the texas army base is a muslim

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Think you are being a little fragile QaA.
While some posts are strange none in my view deserve deletion.
One attempt to get anti Muslim stuff started is feeble.
Thread starter gave thread a name then did not address it in that post, idle rubbish actually.
Well runner offended me, but he/she always gets on the Christian high horse ,back wards usually.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 7 November 2009 3:00:28 PM
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Ok Graham, thanks.

Belly, yeah ... bruised and abused lately.
Think I'll just watch for a while.
I hope to see more lucid discussion in another
thread or article - gotta be better than this one..
Posted by Q&A, Saturday, 7 November 2009 3:10:11 PM
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Runner

--I do not need you to demonstrate to me that much of contemporary terrorism has an Islamic origin.

--I have ZERO patience with apologists for and appeasers of contemporary Islam. It is the appeasers and the apologists, not Islam itself, who are the danger. You know the sort of people – those who accuse you of "racism" or "inciting hatred" or "prejudice" when you write candidly about Islam.

But this PARTICULAR incident appears to have nothing to do with any of that. It appears to be the actions of an unhinged individual who went off the rails.

Q&A

What is your definition of "incitement to hatred".

If you consider a candid expression of opinion about Islam, or any other belief system, to be "incitement to hatred" then please:

--Tell us what belief systems are to be excused from criticism, analysis, attack, satire and scorn; and

--Why those belief systems are to be granted immunity

As it happens Q&A:

I loathe Islam. I also detest most other religious belief systems but even if I didn't I would consider it completely acceptable to single out a particular religion for attack. Why shouldn't I if I thought that belief system was especially loathsome?

I have explained in other posts WHY I have such a strong antipathy to Islam.

If I have succeeded in persuading others that Islam is indeed despicable does that mean I have broken the law?

If so, why?

Is it only Islam that is to be protected in this way or does it this protection apply to all belief systems? What about Christianity or Nazism
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 7 November 2009 3:52:06 PM
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I think this is another one of those dreadfull incidents where a person goes mad and kills others. Like Port Arthur or a while back someone drove a vehicle deliberately into a crowd.

Having said that, it does seem that Islam has more extremists and violence than other religions. I wish they could do something about that, but Islam does not appear to have any international ruling structure that can set standards and decide on various matters.

Take Iraq for example, They were only united for a few hours when the statue of Saddam came down. I was not long before the Sunnis and Shia were blowing each other up and have been ever since.

I wish they would find a way to reduce the number of extremist.

In relation to the Tamils, I am not concerned greatly about them importing terrorism here, although some Tigers and some supporters will undoubtably use any means to get out of Sri Lanka. Whether they continue their activities outside Sri Lanka is another thing.

I was somewhat concerned about several acts of violence in western Sydney last April, involving Sri Lankans. One of these incidents involved pouring acid over someone in a home invasion. However there has not been anything more reported, so hopefully it will not continue.

We can well do without importing violence between ethnic groups. Hope they leave their old hatreds behind.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 7 November 2009 8:12:24 PM
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In respect of the Ft Hood incident, we mustn’t forget who the real victims are.
After all, the targets were trained professionals who were soon to leave for Iraq and Afghanistan with the goal of killing Muslims.
Small wonder that the good doctor got upset.
We need to focus on all the good, peace-loving Muslims who are now even more likely to experience Islamophobia from hate-filled,
bigoted conservatives and Christians.
All the Western governments need to band together to stop this from happening.
We need to enact laws to criminalise Islamophobia.
We need to appoint more Muslims to key security positions in our military and intelligence services.
We need to open our borders to all our brothers and sisters, whatever their faith, but especially to those followers of the religion of peace.
Only by showing how much we trust them can we hope to earn their trust.
Posted by HermanYutic, Saturday, 7 November 2009 8:17:34 PM
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TZ52HX

'OK runner, you gleefully condemn Islam (not just the individual murderers) when Muslims murder.

Now, when you reply to this, let's see you equally condemn Christianity (not just the individual murderers) when Christians murder.

TZ52HX you obviously know little about the teachings of Jesus compared with the life and teachings of Mohamed.

Maybe you should do some homework before mouthing off.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 7 November 2009 8:21:24 PM
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