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China & Russia Heed La Rouche's Advice

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see http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv Click on, "Credit Dollar Steps Towards Big Four"

Lyndon La Rouche is now being taken seriously internationally because of his possible solutions to the World Economic Crisis.He wants to create a credit system of monetary creation instead of our debt system,that makes the derivative economy too big a parasite on real productivity.Presently Bernanke has created billions in cyber money to keep the bubble economy afloat,but this is only bring on a much bigger crisis heralded by the collapse of the US $.

La Rouche suggests that the way out of this crisis is joint economic projects like China and Russia have in the pipeline which,presently number 205.These include transport infrastructure mining and energy development.The big four he suggests, China,India USA and Russia can find a constructive peaceful way out.

Our dilemma is that we have the millstone of these European based Central Banks around our necks ,who produce nothing and still think they are the centre of the universe.

The USA must refrain from this aggressive stance of surrounding China and invading oil rich countries.Ron Paul has won his right for an audit of the US Federal Reserve,but as expected,they are fighting it.

Reason must prevail soon,since the West is on the path to destruction.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 1 November 2009 5:04:13 PM
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You never fail to fascinate me, Arjay, with your choice of heroes to worship.

>>Lyndon La Rouche is now being taken seriously internationally because of his possible solutions to the World Economic Crisis<<

This time you have chosen a real doozy.

LaRouche is a serial fantasist. A Fascist who once was Marxist. A Quaker who supported Saddam Hussein.

Someone who has such a distant affinity with reality, that he is happy to publish conflicting autobiographies, and not think twice about it.

Someone who serially invents his own past, to accommodate his current fantasy - like his pretence that he was an FBI informant during his seventeen years in the Socialist Workers Party.

Someone whose dedication to the plight of the downtrodden proletariat was so great, that he spent years as a well-paid management consultant at George S May, helping corporations reduce labour costs.

Someone who was a master of self-promotion and self deception, who, on the topic of his own insights into physics could say "I saw clearly, for the first time, the nature of the solution to the 'particle-field paradox'", with an entirely straight face.

Unfortunately, he has provided no further information on this major scientific breakthrough, so we'll just have to take his word for it.

Someone whose skill as a psychoanalyst was such that after his conducting counselling sessions with a young Freedom Rider called Griswold, the poor fellow committed suicide. Typically, LaRouche blamed this on his wife, for "intruding".

And you have chosen this man's economic "policies" as being attractive. What is it about them that persuades you that they might have any value?

You really should try, Arjay, to model your approach to life on people who are somewhat more... how shall I put this... stable.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 2 November 2009 8:34:39 AM
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Pericles,If someone has a good idea,you should not let your own bias distort the reality.I don't care from what side of politics people come from,good reason and logic is all that matters.I don't agree with Ron Paul or La Rouche entirely,but they both have good ideas.

Whether it be communist,facist or corportate totalitarianism,they are equally as bad.We do not have true democracy at the moment.

You need to make your mind more flexible.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 2 November 2009 10:33:33 AM
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Pericles,

Did you know of Lyndon La Rouche's history before Arjay mentioned him here? It seems you often take the time to go an investigate Arjay's articles and report on what you found. It is not something I do myself - I gave up on paying much attention to Arjay's theories ages ago.

Nonetheless, it is nice to have that strategy confirmed as being the right one occasionally. Thanks for doing leg work.
Posted by rstuart, Monday, 2 November 2009 10:58:42 AM
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Yup, you'd certainly need to exercise "flexibility" on this one, Arjay.

>>Pericles,If someone has a good idea,you should not let your own bias distort the reality... You need to make your mind more flexible.<<

So tell me, how do you judge a "good idea"?

Because it seems to me that you don't actually look behind the headlines when you assess the work of a Ron Paul or a Lyndon Larouche.

Paul is - like you - a conspiracy addict, whose views on how to "help" the economy are firmly rooted in a world of idealistic, impractical nonsense, as I have pointed out to you ad infinitum.

And so it is with Larouche.

You may be attracted to his essential anti-establishment nature - your devotion to conspiracy theory is a give-away - but surely you cannot fail to see the essential emptiness of his thought processes.

Here is a typical sample.

"Our industries, our agriculture, our infrastructure is decaying, worldwide especially in the Americas, especially in North America, and especially in Western Europe. Western and Central Europe is a disaster area. They no longer have national security, economic security, they're dominated by the British, entirely, under the British system, which was established in the context of the breakdown of the Soviet Union and East German economy. At that point, the British succeeded, with the support of Mitterrand, and with the support of George H.W. Bush, the President at that time, in imposing upon Germany and other nations of Western and Central Europe, conditions which are destructive. And the Western European economy is generally bankrupt, today, hopelessly so. It could be reorganized, through bankruptcy reorganization, but presently the whole system of Western and Central Europe is hopelessly bankrupt, as other parts of the world are."

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/12093

You'd need the flexibility of a contortionist to drag any sense out of that little lot.

My point is this.

The man has lived so much of his life in denial of reality, the chances of his proposals having a breath of viability are nil.

And from his own mouth, he continues to prove it.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 2 November 2009 10:58:57 AM
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This discussion is based on a false premise.
The failure of the financial system was forced by the surge in oil
prices just two months before the crash.
Oil reach US$147 a barrel. The economy could not stand that shock.
It forced millions into default, and it all fell apart.
The magic number seems to be oil costs over 4% GDP.

It is pointless now fiddling with the financial system, the problem
now is energy and it will continue to be so.

Four of the previous five recessions were preceded by oil price spikes.
Expect another spike in price, perhaps towards the end of 2010 as
Chinese oil demand keeps increasing.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 2 November 2009 1:38:49 PM
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