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The Rise of Atheism - Convention

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court de jure in session

this notice
notices the notice ...of de jure hearing ..on the censure of evolution

athiesm based on claimed science..of not god..or of evolution of species
not genus..and calling for jurors..

[ratio 24 clear sepperation... as measure of judgment..
.as better explained at post topic

heed and take notice that

court is in session
conducting first reading
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=3225&p=19776#p19776

this is 2 de of four notices
first is
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=3124&page=0
2 de is de jure trial
3rd is here
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=3229
4th at...PUBLIC ..open forum
http://www.peacetakescourage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11077&p=82369#p82369

posting in progress

please note this site shall hold the public record
as other sites are currently...closed..but im hoping we can open them up a bit

so get involved
im taking evolution down..in court...infront of a jury of my athiest/thiest peers
recall here is where i gathered all mine opponants
come to the hearing...inform the trial
or catch up here...as i recall to post the public record
Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 November 2009 11:38:13 AM
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OUG have you even read what I said? I gave evidence for evolution, it is not disputed my the vast majority of scientific bodies the world over.

Your making a claim that your god did it, and you have not provided any proof, now your posting conspiracy theory stuff, way off tangent.

You don't seem quite 'stable' mate.

drugs are bad m'kay?

ps: btw your links to the freeman stuff are password protected, no one can read them.

Your god has told many to kill for it, the bible is full of your god ordering murder.

Is it the morally correct thing to do if your god tells you to murder OUG?

Do you think it was morally right for the freemen christian to shoot the abortion doctor, because your god told him too?
Posted by Gee Suss, Monday, 9 November 2009 11:55:18 AM
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Occasionally my curiosity gets the better of me, and I confess that I actually clicked, at random, one of oug's links. I suppose I am still slightly amazed that even in the twentyfirst century someone can think - if that is the right word - the way he does.

Having faith is one thing. It doesn't require evidence, just an advanced form of wishful thinking. But here we have someone actively trying to promote that wishful thinking as being more convincing than reality.

>>For the atheists..who complain that we never provide any evidence,..let them debate this:
http://www.onlinedebate.net/forums/showthread.php?s=f2808dac9151ecf0d31f7af106ae8462&t=15307 <<

Any ways up, this is what I found...

"On God's Existence Part 1: The Cosmological Argument"

This is a blog that appears to go on forever; fortunately I only needed to read a few paragraphs.

"The 1st premise of the Cosmological Argument states “Everything that begins to exist has a cause.” Many argue that God’s own existence necessitates a cause. However, a cause is only necessitated for something that at a prior moment was in a different state. So in the case of existence, that which did not exist prior to some event necessitates a cause. In contrast, that which has always existed does not possess a prior state of non-existence; therefore a cause is unnecessary for its existence."

It takes only a moment's thought to see through this piece of whimsy.

The assumption required to accept this opening gambit is, of course, the premise that only "God" could have existed "at a prior moment".

If we apply the same rules to a universe-with-god and a universe-without-god, we arrive at the same position: neither is a proof or disproof of the other.

Thank goodness I didn't have to wade through too much nonsense to discover the fatal flaw.

You have to feel a little sorry for the writer, though, who must have put enormous energy into building this particular sandcastle, only for it to be demolished by the first wave of the incoming tide.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 9 November 2009 11:57:21 AM
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OUG you are once again spreading conspiracy rubbish...typical!

Your youtube link to 'how dumb people are' was rubbish, so people dont know the price of gold? a very big 'so what' factor there, and what that has to do with evolution is anybodies guess! FAIL OUG

and then this little ripper...

>>and by selling you on the godless evolution
>>do as the godless do

>>Bioterrorism Tabletop Exercise..Was Being Conducted In Ukraine One >>Month Ago/Now Country Is Gripped By Mystery Epidemic

More absolute maniac rubbish, the 'mystery' epidemic is the swine flu and the seasonal flu....and why has that anything to do with evolution eh? The TABLETOP exercise...get it, table top means they sat around a table! FAIL OUG!

As Gee Suss has pointed out the freemans society is password protected...FAIL OUG

And finally, some big claims here from you oug...

>>im taking evolution down..in court...infront of a jury of my athiest/thiest peers>>

in a forum that you cant read...FAIL OUG!
Posted by trikkerdee, Monday, 9 November 2009 1:07:37 PM
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NOTE PEACE TAKE COURAGE[transcripts]..
http://www.peacetakescourage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11077&p=82369#p82369
..LINK DONT NEED..ADMISSION id

ps latest/live replies are here
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=3225&p=19786#p19786

i will post them/here .as written/edited..within my 4 post limit
but..be assured...i am replying them..all/fully

SUSS<<..not disputed........by..the vast majority..of scientific bodies..lol..the/world ove>>r.

great/suss gee..please name them

who/says what?

please list..your evidence...lol..into the trial/here

you are..the first witness..called by this court

please offer a brief...sumation..to avoid me/posting your actual quotes

I WOULD HATE TO ..MISS QUOTE YOU

geesuss>Your/god did it../not provided..any/proof>,

to be fair..that now..is an issue.
.for this de jure/here..to decide

..for the benifit of the court/..lets say
''you have three days to produce yours'..

and so too i..
.i suggest you post ....it

as your .....specific proof...
as specificlly specified ....is here/where?

<<con-spiracy/theo-ry..>>.

again/oh suss one..
you have/three days..to prove this..before the/courts/record

as its..own/heading..so it is...as..you chose

i will/enjoy point..by/point..his right..to be silent..on the matter.....my law

lol

ps:..<<links..to the freeman/stuff..are password protected,..

entry}..is free..to all...
get into..the live/court..in 50..more posts..your..on the jury!

<<Your god..has told many..to kill..for/it,>>

as i have revealed..to you..jeEsusS...

what the child do..is not/the penalty..but the burdon..of the parent...would you..accord god..the guilt /blame/cause..for your life/choices

for him/to thus..reverse..the big sepperation/bang..
as god..in a whiff/of..his own childrens/science..lol...
that//t/his/logic..accepts the science...

and the big/bang..becomes..the big/collapse...

the science..is so much a danger..
it threatens/our very cause..of life...god...the good loyal/living loving/good/god..

GIVING/sustaining..ALL LIFE..ITS LIVING..

how does..all...lol..that science..
weigh weigh anything..on him?

how dare..you fools..play your mind-games..upon children..
your not only..playing with fire..ya say..there aint one..as your smothering it

without presenting..your proof
..athiesm/means no god
you say..evolution..is proof of...no god

bull/..i say life is proof of god...
but we..are here...at trial page..
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=3225&p=19776#p19776

..to hear..the proofs.../evidences..of evolution

GET IT..EVOLUTION..IS ON TRIAL HERE

not athiests...not religion...not god

JUST EVOLUTION

lets hear..the proof..BEFORE THIS..GREAT/COURT..of freemen

let..their spirit..move yourn.enjoine/entente

[QUOTE}<<the bible/full of your god /ordering murder.>>

please present your proof..[as sepperate topic...

link it back here under..these words..as quote in context

edited..to word limit
Posted by one under god, Monday, 9 November 2009 2:03:12 PM
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67 members of the Inter Academy Panel (IAP), representing the world’s national science academies. The Executive Board of ICSU
(International Council for Science) has also endorsed the statement.

http://www.interacademies.net/?id=6176

OUG, you are making a claim you god created everything, and the only proof you can give, is that everything exists. totally circular reasoning.

That's total lack of reasoning, logic .. and well .. is plain dumb.

Even if evolution is wrong, you still have nothing, nada, zip, zilch, a big fat zero. Or as I like to say, you are just prodding a dead parrot saying 'See it moves!!' :)

There's no trial, as you have no case. You have no evidence to put forward at all. LOL. (oh and the links to your freeman stuff just ask for a login, there is no information presented)

So, let's get to some interesting questions.

If your god tells you to kill someone OUG, like he has in the bible, is it moral for you to do so? or is it immoral?

And more to the point, would you kill someone, if your god told you too?

I am interested to see where your morals come from. Is it defined by your god, or have we discovered something that is independent of this thing you call god.
Posted by Gee Suss, Monday, 9 November 2009 2:21:11 PM
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