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sex children and failure

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Anti I don’t know what you’re like but I couldn’t stay home and not do anything – I’d rather stay home but to do what? There is a need for short term carers, crises care and respite care. I’m good at it –little children do well here and get ready for the next step. Having met some foster parents there is no way I would stop because I don’t like the alternatives for the kids.

The fostering money does go on the kids Anti… but if one arrives without anything or I don’t get paid for another it gets spread around more. As I said to Belly, the children come and go and right now 6 but in three weeks there will be four with another one transitioning home after that. I might get another, at one point last year I had ten. Three homeless children arrived and they had nothing but what the clothes they were standing in. It is an easy 350.00 on each kid to get them the clothing they need.

Anti if you need proof of how much I do for these kids, their playroom and toys their clothing and beds etc I can pass some photos through Graham. Every caseworker I know has said they haven’t come across a caregiver before that without having their own children of the same age has provided so much. Having not been here long the start up for us was over 30,000.00 in renovations to create a bedroom and big playroom full of toys. Having fostered in NZ we knew what was needed.

No kid leaves the way they came; they go with all their new toys and a new wardrobe of nice clothing. And before anyone says I shouldn’t explain myself – yes I should. It is tax payer money.

Now if someone could explain why a NGO foster parent with the same children gets double what my kids get I’d love to know. Because it isn’t like they are made to send them to private school or have a certain standard of care.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Friday, 25 September 2009 8:08:50 AM
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suzeonline, "One thing is for sure, having worked in the health industry for many years, there are far more emotionally and physically wrecked children and adults in the health system with sexual abuse in their past, than those with neglect in childhood.

All forms of child abuse need to be stamped out, but child sex abuse is far more likely to go un-noticed by anyone else for too long than any other form of abuse.'

First, it is particularly unhelpful to separate sexual abuse from other forms of abuse and the much larger child neglect because there are interrelationships, the causes are complex and a holistic approach is essential;

Secondly, neglect and other forms of abuse are well known to result in severe psychological problems, many chronic; and

Finally, all forms of abuse and neglect are equally unreported.

The news is exception reporting. Sex crimes are newsworthy for Tracey on ACA and the tabloid media.
Posted by Cornflower, Friday, 25 September 2009 8:15:20 AM
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First
Belly if you felt threatened in anyway with what I have said I apologize that was not my intention. I have no intention to want to know your personal details I just wanted somewhere to send the proof of what the bastards have done to an innocent child while I have had to sit on my hands, as to do what I wanted to do is "Antisocial" behaviour, that proof I wanted to send as I expect noboby to believe me unconditionally.
Secondly Anti get off TPP's case I am as chauvinistic as any man. I have seen the photos that TPP talks of so lay off aye?
Third I will continue on "What's Your Rant" thread because this thread as Belly said is about "Child Sexual Abuse"
Thanks from Dave
Posted by dwg, Friday, 25 September 2009 8:52:35 AM
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dwg:"Secondly Anti get off TPP's case"

Oh dear, the white knight syndrome strikes again. I'm not on her case, just pointing out that she isn't an unpaid slave to her saintly obsessions.

She's someone who has chosen to make something of a career out of fostering and that's fine - she's obviously dedicated and she should be paid. If she feels she's not paid well enough, she should say so and agitate for more, but she shouldn't claim that $60,000 or so tax-free is all spent on the infants she cares for. I have 2 children of my own, one of whom is a teen girl. The direct cost of supporting them is not $20,000 per year, even with the high maintenance cost of a teenager and the activities they do.

Perhaps if more people were aware of the potential to make a career out of it, there would be more carers? Aren't more carers needed?

TPP:"if someone could explain why a NGO foster parent with the same children gets double what my kids get I’d love to know. "

How does that work, Jewels? Is the payment not a standard Government amount? Where does the additional money come from?

As I keep saying, Jewels, I don't doubt you do a good job, only that it costs as much as you say it does.
Posted by Antiseptic, Friday, 25 September 2009 10:11:07 AM
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A-septic

You continue to attack people for no more reason than they disagree with you. Now your target is Piper.

You still fail to offer any practical suggestions for protecting children, you still malign women.

Well, one thing you have achieved is that you have proved yourself a bully. I suspect if you are a bully on an online forum, you are probably one in the real world, which would explain why you do not form successful long term relationships with women. I admit this is conjecture, however, you offer nothing to indicate otherwise. BTW, this is not an ad hominem attack - it is an observation based on the consistency of your posts over a long period of time.

As I said you are fooling no-one - not even other men on this forum who would understand the grief you have no doubt experienced in your life.

It is your choice to continue to alienate yourself from others, it is my responsibility to call a halt to your bullying and to draw attention to your unwarranted denigration of others.
Posted by Fractelle, Friday, 25 September 2009 1:17:08 PM
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Cornflower, I was not trying to downgrade other forms of abuse than sexual abuse, but I thought this thread was about sexual abuse?

It seemed to me that many other contributors to this thread were using it as a forum for their own anti-mother/female agendas, and I was pointing out that it is far less likely to be women committing sex crimes against children. Am I wrong?

Have you worked in community health, Aboriginal health, mental health units, paediatric wards or in emergency wards as an R.N.?
I have, for over 25 years.
I know what is happening out there right now because I have been in their homes and watched abuse, and I have received them in the hospital wards after the abuse has hurt them.

I will always stand up for women and children in our community who have been abused by men, because it is well known who most often comes out second best physically, should a physical altercation take place. This will never change.

Fractelle, good on you for standing up to 'septics bullying. By the way, 'aseptic' means no infection or clean, whereas 'septic' means infected- a far better term for him!
Posted by suzeonline, Friday, 25 September 2009 6:28:55 PM
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