anti I started the thread it was about sexual assaults on children and those against such as the 30 years a victim woman.
And our failure as a nation to act.
It was meant to be about priests and churchmen, about teachers and others, all who hurt children.
I wanted us to talk about the fact kids do cry for help, and are ignored, not believed, how in the hell could we do that?
Yes your point about other harm to children is true, but I refuse to let the sexual assaults get buried under another blanket of white wash.
or the thread diverted from its subject.
Years ago in another forum a poster spoke about child love, a revolting thing, male , who told us it was ok.
Well no never ever it is the lowest act a human can do taking a child and destroying his/her whole life.
You should get off
Julies back she is doing a good job, I remain unsure if I upset her or Fractelle any one for that matter but like dwg my pain is forever, my commitment to change is too and mate I am unimpressed that any man can not feel dreadful about lives destroyed.
And sorry but you do appear to me to be very anti woman, I may be wrong but get y evidence from your posts

Thank you Belly and you must be used to me now, if upset I’d be loud and clear. Not even slightly miffed at anything from you to date honey.

It is something Anti bought up over in Articles, something about who is getting money. I’m thinking something about money is bothering him lately. And we all know money worries suck.

And money is something that I get angry about as many parents have accused me of fostering for this motive. I have 6 kids right now, one will leave tomorrow another one in 3 weeks. This income that is assumed doesn’t take in to account that for some months a foster parent can have one child then more then back to one or none. It is the nature of Short Term fostering. Not getting paid, getting paid late, kids that arrive just with a shirt on their back etc.

But on topic; the Neglected children seem to me to be the most traumatized and the hardest to bring back around again. Physically abused kids are their own tragedy.

Sexual abuse is something so different in what it does to a child. In a discussion about sexual abuse it is distracting to think of the other abuses even though it is common to find all three as a history of one small child.

The age of the child at the time or over what time can lead to different trauma and extremes. It isn’t something I can be specific about but right now I have an older girl who I don’t think will ever recover a life of abuse and detachment. The treatment of her post placement is an additional hurdle to overcome and may be the biggest hurdle yet, again I am forced to be a witness to further harm.

I was reading the newspaper yesterday and noted an article on the latest figures from the W.A. Department for Child Protection.
It stated that "...substantiated cases of child sexual abuse against fathers still far outnumber those against mothers."

It did say that mothers were 17 times more likely to neglect their children, but that fathers were responsible for 85 per cent of sex abuse cases against children.

No surprises there I suppose.
What was interesting about the article was the comments from Michelle Stubbs, spokeswoman for Adults Surviving Child Abuse W.A.

She said that the figures on neglect were probably the result of many more children being in the primary care of their mothers, who are therefore more likely to be held responsible by the Department for Child Protection in neglect cases.

Looking after children by themselves, or with new partners who may well be abusive to children too, would surely lead to more cases of physical and/or emotional neglect by their stressed mothers.

Who is to say that if all these children were left in their father's care alone, instead of the mothers, that the neglect numbers would be any less amongst children?

One thing is for sure, having worked in the health industry for many years, there are far more emotionally and physically wrecked children and adults in the health system with sexual abuse in their past, than those with neglect in childhood.

All forms of child abuse need to be stamped out, but child sex abuse is far more likely to go un-noticed by anyone else for too long than any other form of abuse.

Suzy:”… child sex abuse is far more likely to go un-noticed by anyone else for too long than any other form of abuse.”

Of course – that’s not said in an “I knew that” kind of way that was more a “oh my god” I never even thought of it like that before. I should have since this thread started with the 30 year story.

Do you know what else I have been made aware of for the first time recently – even the young women who have been sexually abused are scared they will also become pedophiles because that is what they read and see everywhere about the cycles of abuse. I imagine the young men in the same situation have even more self doubt.

Do you or did you have the Stop the Cycle campaign? There was something worded similar in NZ. This is no good; I think it would have or has, done more harm

Not far away from me a young couple struggle to bring up the husbands sisters children.
He is half my age, far different from me, but living my life in front of my eyes.\He works very long hours, he goes without, he puts those kids in front of him and his lady.
He loves those kids, lives for them, gives as I did too much.
When I started my life as alternative father to my siblings then nephews and nieces it was less common.
Grand parents did it, often but not in the massive numbers we see now.
Can you believe the total number of people living within the less than ten towns and villages number fewer than 100.000?
Four times that at Christmas, yet I can name 20 family's doing the work pied Piper is doing.
In caring for 50 kids on any day?
Know some who have lost 8 kids via grog and drugs, and that many of those kids have been sexually assaulted.
Watching a shy little brown eyed girl head down and unwilling to talk, knowing she s a victim, it hurts.
I make no charges just a statement of fact.
Far too many have commited this horrible act, feel they have done no wrong, and undermine any effort to spotlight the fact it is one of the worst crimes you could commit.
Lady's never be too defensive about what sex is responsible, both are equally and far too often.
To ignore that is as blind as defending a pedophile because he/she is sorry.

TPP:"This income that is assumed doesn’t take in to account that for some months a foster parent can have one child then more then back to one or none."

and why would that matter if the money is all spent on the kids anyway?

I'm disappointed, Jewels. I thought you were a pretty honest person. At the moment, with 6 kids in care, you're getting paid about $60,000 a year tax-free, equivalent to a salary of $100,000. If that all goes on the kids, i'm impressed, but it doesn't really, does it? You said yourself some time ago that you decided to do this originally because it meant you could stay home and not have to work. Good for you and what you do is important, so there's no need to try to pretend you're unpaid. That's just dishonest.

Belly, no one, including me, thinks that kids who are sexually abused are undeserving of support. Where we differ is in our emotional response to the subject. I was never sexually abused, although by today's definitions I did get physically abused - Dad was a dab hand with the strap and Mum could swing a mean wooden spoon or "board of education" - so were all the other mums and dads. As far as I'm aware, I don't know anyone who was sexually abused as a child. I do know that the total numbers are very small, according to the latest figures, while the numbers suffering in other ways are far greater.

There is a review about to be conducted into the shared parenting laws. Of the categories of abuse, only sexual abuse is predominantly committed by males, yet that is the only form of abuse that is being discussed.

If the review decides to recommend rescinding the shared parenting laws, as may well be the case with much public hyteria being whipped up by government-funded Feminist groups, those kids who are abused by Mum and her boyfriends will skyrocket. Even the numbers sexually abused will increase, since Mum's new boyfriend is much more likely to do it than Dad is.