dwg you and I know your story is true and many hundreds if not thousands of others have such storys to tell.
In fact Dave those storys are part of our failure, us our country and our justice system has and continues to fail.
Your ex could be the ex of many I know, sexual abuse that NEVER HAPPENED is a weapon often used.
Very often.
And the children involved are victims nearly as much as if it had been true, stolen from a parent.
Only lately have fathers got an equal chance.
Bloke I need to explain why I am reluctant to unmask, to make too many new contacts.
My job is my life, my chance to make a difference, I work long hours much more than 8 and am flat out.
I promised myself after I did great self harm by letting my name out, and suffered at work, I would not do it again.
Putting my e mail out to one could mean 100 or 1.000 new contacts.
I am over loaded, those who know me warn me I am burning the candle at both ends.
But Dave I truly, honestly, think if you do not commit totally are not passionate about it you should not have My job.

Belly
Thanks, for saying what I say is true, it is just that for to long I am the LIAR everyone else is telling the TRUTH even like I say I have a reciept from the Attorney-Generals Library but still I am the LIAR.
I will say this though CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE NO EXCUSE it is a different show to all other forms of child abuse
After reading AND understanding John Bowlby Attachment and Loss all other forms can be explained but the rotten bloody peadophiles should be dead but it is "ANTI-SOCIAL" behaviour to do what we did the other side of the wall, so why not do the same as my people did to those that had wronged, banish them to the wilderness(ie desert) away from the "tribe"
It just hurts so bloody much knowing what low life exists not only in the town of birth but in your own bloody so called family and relations that is why I used to just pack the swag and go hoping that when I went back they may have changed but they never will
I honestly don't know an answer to stop it, all other forms I can see an answer too and reasons for it
Also I will agree this thread is for the discussion of Child Sexual Abuse that is why I tried to get Anti to go to the rant site
Thanks you have a good life and don't burn yourself out the kids need someone fighting for them and I don't think I will be here much longer
All the best from Dave

I think we have stalled Dave, the thread had some good comments some bad and some that made me spotlight the poster and ask why?
remember Dave, never forget, flippancy in such matters is worth watching and can be a symptom of something worse.
Yes you and I understand, Foxy and Fractelle will continue to care.
TPP will continue to love and care, to make us smile and kids laugh.
Suzyonline will understand and condemn.
But we failed, you and I could get together and start a new crusade for kids, or join an existing one.
But we only have so many years left not enough.
Next week maybe today, the papers will tell us of child rape , maybe a priest, parent, teacher, father, brother, we will see more concern for released ofenders.
Another story of drugged parents killing or harming a child.
We while just out shopping may see kids who need a wash a feed and a mum or dad who is aware how very lucky they are to have them.
However dwg just maybe you or I can light a fire in a younger person, that fire may one day drive some one to say our children MUST never be left in the wrong hands EVER and it is never wrong to care for kids as much as self.

Belly,
Yes, it has stalled
Yes, we will read again and again like you say if not today then tomorrow
Yes, The Courts will continue to let these bastards go
Yes, Solicitors and such will continue to defend them
Yes, Even up here the "Powers That Be" are more interested in getting me at all costs while they allow these very Predators to roam the street
Yes, they will gaol me in the new year because I finally snapped when I found out my ex was the one that was keeping our son from us after putting up with all her shite for 9years while she blamed all that shite on the loss of our son
Yes, DoCS etc will continue to place the kids in homes that are unsuitable
Yes, drugs(Alcohol as well it is a drug)will continue to grow in use as more and more do the same as my people did to blind themselves to thier own hurt then the cycle will continue
Just to many yes's, I am busted physically from a ton of steel that I tried to catch in 85 from 12' and am worn out but I will continue to carry the hurt for the children as it may help them not to suffer just tyhat little bit less
Maybe just maybe someone will be able to muster the troops to stop it but I don't think I will be hear to see it
If ever you want to connect e-mail graysond49@yahoo.com mobile 0421 949 734 and if you are in Gatton anytime before the New Year then I would be pleased to meet you
You look after yourself may the Lord shine on you and your family well
God bless from Dave

Belly, what do you think should be done? We know you care, so what should we do? What can be done that isn't? What is being done that shouldn't be? Is it even possible to do anything or is it part of the spectrum of human behaviour and can never be eliminated?

The WA figures said there were just over 20 verified cases of sexual asault of children in a year. You said you think the figure is much higher: how much higher? How do we find out?

Just a little over a hundred years ago the child bride was common. In some parts of the world, she still is. Were our ancestors all perverts?

Anti
The "child bride" was when the life expectancy was much less humans bred at pubity which was around 14-15 years of age back then.
Even in my life time I have seen where when I went to school we were in 9th or 10th grade before shielas got boobs but have a look at them today
Boys at the same age were mostly into being with thier mates playing sports etc
The human race took until approx. the 1800's to get the first billion people in the world
The illicit drug scene gives rise to the protection of the scum that prey on children because the addicts want to protect thier supply
Remember only in my time alcohol was illegal for my people but the "Respectable People" that took the grog to my people got them "addicted" to it as it covered our pain
There is JUST NO EXCUSE today the world is over populated and the wrongs that have occurred in the past have not been learnt from
If you forget the wrongs of the past you are sure to err in the future
Like I say I cannot answer why this garbage of child sexual abuse is continuing
All other forms I can reason an answer for but:-
Child Sexual Abuse NEVER there is just not a valid answer and it only sickens me to even talk on it but someone has to bring it into the open and we must protect those that would EXPOSE it not persecute those that STAND against it
ANTI I hope this answers a little BUT:-
have a good life from Dave