Squeers – I’m inclined to think that there are no vile questions – it's the lack of questioning that's vile.

Examinator – Aaah! perhaps I misjudged you – you are really a likable guy when you are not talking politics – more like Old English Sheep Dog, than Mutley.

Bronwyn –Cheers – point taken.

Belly– Once again, I am taken by your good judgment and fair mindedness.If the girls are entitled to three cheers, you must be entitled to six!

Anyway its been nice chatting with you all.I’m sure we’ll come to blows again on some other thread , sooner or later....there’s a whisper on the wind about Schapelle Corby should be released /returned to OZ – though, I think I might give that one a miss!

I am sorry boys, I could not be bothered with this unintelligent thread and this is the first thread I have decided to unsubscribe.

I am no woman hater, quite the reverse.
But some times I will walk away rather than argue with some.
It does not say I am defeated.
The views some express here are wrong.
Minority ones, and wrong.
I highlight my claims remain my true views.
And that enlightened thought is the last thing being shown by some here.
EACH crime against humanity should be judged on its own.
To highlight the wests faults, to devalue the crime this grub did, is leftist swill.
To think, even for a second, the homeland that sent him ,in any way, has shown anything but disrespect for those he murdered is blindness.
My life has been within the left of center, I revel in and embrace the changes I have seen, but I smell Greens here.
The unfocused extremism of some from that party forever and ever keep it from becoming other than a small party never to lead.
I leave the thread, it is too far from reality, and mainstream thought to be bothered with.

Well I've enjoyed the chat, all, and I'm not so deluded as to think that there aren't valid criticisms of my position. Politics and and ethics though, in my view, have been too long asunder.
Have a nice day.

Belly

<< I am no woman hater, quite the reverse. But some times I will walk away rather than argue with some. >>

Not before taking a few parting shots though, hey Belly!

<< .. but the leftist blind female views expressed here are in my view rubbish. >>

<< The views some express here are wrong. Minority ones, and wrong. >>

<< .. I smell Greens here. The unfocused extremism of some from that party .. >>

<< I leave the thread, it is too far from reality, and mainstream thought to be bothered with. >>

Quite a spray really, all of it unsubstantiated and all of it very revealing of a closed and arrogant mindset.

We know you don't like 'faking it', Belly, but a little more consideration to those who've taken the time to present a thoughtful and cogent position on this thread would be in order. Anyone can make sweeping pronouncements and walk off with their nose in the air. It takes much more to present a balanced argument, and your 'can't be bothered' dismissal of those who have does you little credit.

<< My life has been within the left of center .. >>

You remind us with cringeworthy regularity of your 'left of centre' credentials, Belly. I think you're valiantly trying to convince yourself as much as you are the rest of us. I've read enough of your views now to know they place you very consistently on Labor's Right. And Labor itself these days has moved so far to the Right as to be barely distinguishable from the Coalition, which has also moved to the conservative Right. You might wear your Left badge with pride, but your views and attitudes are rarely reflective of the Left.

Squeers

Thanks for an intelligent thread and to all posters who made the effort to present a well-constructed argument. Hopefully, we'll cross paths on many more occasions. :)

Goodonya, Bronwyn--well said!
And thanks for your rigorous and eloquent contributions--not only because I happen to agree with them!
I look forward to more debates :-)