R0bert
1. I use a metaphoric and symbolic language and often people misunderstand me, even GOOD FRIENDS. I put bits and pieces around and I am not very helfull to sent clear messesges. For example I wrote "I see the dead bodies of the little children....." BUT in other place I wrote that the problems from overpopulation, and food sortage will be visible within 50-80 years. THAT MEANS when I write ""I see the dead bodies.." I mean I expect to see all this terible things whithin 50-80 years IF WE DO NOT.....
2. YOU HAVE RIGHT! We start from the easy to the difficult, we start from the closer the the far, we start from the places where we have a basic infrastructure as water, roads etc OUR GOAL IS TO MIXIMIZE THE BENEFITS WITH THE MINIMUM COST IN THE SOONEST POSIBLE TIME.
3. then why I wrote for the deserts? R0bert you know, I know that soon or later we will have big problems in our planet, overpopulation, climate change, overused land, poisoned land and seas, food sortage etc!
We can not do many many things for birth control in the cast, undeveloped Indian, more than 4 billions people in this century, we can not do many things with Catholic or Muslim religious they are against the birth control, we can not expect many things. WE (HUMANITY)WILL HAVE A BIG PROBLEM, THE BIGGEST ONE IN THE HUMAN HISTORY!
I try to sent the messege that " WE CAN CONVERT OUR DESERTS TO GOLDFIELDS FOR AUSTRALIANS AND LIFE SAVERS FOR PEOPLE OVERSEAS!" I PUT A FLAG IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT AND I TRY TO TELL: DO YOU SEE THE FLAG? WE WILL USE EVERY INCH, TO THE LAST ONE FROM HERE TO THE FLAG! I SAY, we are strong of cause our land, our deserts and the food sortage in the rest world. LET'S START WORKING. I will try to open or write in 2-3 more threads about the agriculturar sector and I want to finish suggesting some land and agricultural reforms.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Yabby,
In the 60s/70s the CSIRO were doing a lot of research into re-establishing species of saltbush and other 'usefull' plants in large areas of arid and semi-arid country, which feral animals,particularly rabbits, had decimated. Do you know what happened to those projects or did they die with CSIRO restructuring.

I was also heartened to read about the dry areas coming back after the release of the Calisi virus, however recently I read that the rabbits have developed resistance, so I hope new strains are being sort.

I thought of suggesting these types of issues to Antonios, as an alternative to his dream, but decided it would be a waste of time.

I also understand that feral Camels and donkeys are now causing a lot of damage and it is hoped they can be controlled. Even better if some commercial use can be made of them.

You are probably the best contact that may be closest to these matters so I hope you can provide some up to date information.

pelican
I read very often your posts I am curious to know if you are a party officer, you have very clear ideas, you are the MOST CONSISTENT person on this forum and you deserve to be a party officer!
I am a barbarian or cave man you know that, I play around and if I think it is time to become bad, I do!
"The real issue is overpopulation in areas where food is scarce, lack of social support, economic inequity and corruption." YOU HAVE RIGHT! THE QUESTION IS WHAT WE WILL DO UNDER THESE BAD CIRCUMSTANCES.
If we leave them to die from hungry they, billions of people, will take US with them into the grave!
We have moral duty to support them and supporting them to create a stronger Australia.
You know the coming problems of cause the overpopulation, the food sortage, bad distribution etc, I understand your worries for the environment, to be honest the desert environment is like a dead environment, not very rich in live beings BUT THE BENEFITS OF THE USE OF OUR DESERTS FOR THE COUNTRY AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE MILLIONS TIMES BIGGER.
When pelican we try to find ways to bring row materials from other planets or asteroids then we can not leave unused our land, our deserts. We can not be very selfis, when the humanity has problems we use our resourses to support it, do not forget that it will create big wealth and jobs for Australians!
I asked Col Rouge if he has big yard to take all desert rats in his backyard! For me always humans come first and we can not ignore them without to risk everything!
Let's start preparing from now , let's give our self the time to do good job, than to leave everything for the last minute and create big mess!
From all the animals on this planet I worry the most from the humans!
Let's plan our steps and prevent our self from bigger problems.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Banjo, saltbush is doing ok, with lots of farmers planting them
these days, on salt affected country. But drainage is the ultimate
solution for that problem, ie take the salt back to where it
came from originally.

Sadly CSIRO are doing less and less, when it comes to agriculture.
Calisi comes and goes. I did see a programme about the bloke who
did alot of the original work on Calisi, but I think that even his
funding is about to run out. Most of the biological control programmes,
which gave such great results, have been canned.

I tried to get our State Govt to invest a very small amount into
completing the bushfly programme here, but nobody is interested.
All very sad really.

On camels its a different story. They are starting to cause some
serious damage. I heard of a mob who plan to develop a mobile
meatworks, to harvest them and export the meat. IIRC then
Tony Burke is throwing some $ their way to get the project moving
as it seems to make sense. There is very good demand for camel
meat in the ME.

Dear Antonios ,

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ASymeonakis “I asked Col Rouge if he has big yard to take all desert rats in his backyard! For me always humans come first and we can not ignore them without to risk everything!”

“desert rats”…. I wonder how the fellows from Tobruk (the ones under dear old Monty’s generalship) got into this thread but I see Ang San Suu Kyi has also got an honourable mention ….

So I suppose anything possible

Doubtless Oscar Wilde would have something witty to say like

“I sometimes think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.”