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A small park in the desert.

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I have a dream! I want to create a small green park for travelers, some where in a desert, we will discuss about it.
I can not do it alone, I do not have the money and the time to do it but I am sure we, forum members, can create not only one but many small parks in our deserts.
Do you like to take part in the creation of a small park in an Australian desert, as a first step to convert our deserts to green parks and forests?
There are machines which can make water from the air, they do not cost very much, we can buy some of them.
We need trees which can savy in hard conditions, high and low temperatures, in dry conditions. I read for some kind of trees in Israel or Latin America. We can ask Australian authorities and australian Universities for advives about it.
We will need at least two small power generators, may be solar generators or solar chargers to run the pumps for the water or for the machines. I am sure we will find the best advices about it for free.
We will need strong, good quality of hoses to transfer the water from water machines to each tree, we can do it.
We will need a committee with 7-10 members to manage the whole proccess. Even we can create an organization for it. I know we have plenty, credible and creative members in our forum, we can find many persons for the committee or to create an organization. We must open a bank account for the donations, I do not like to have any relations with the bank account.
I believe Australian authorities will be happy to give us a small part of desert to convert it in a green park.
I know if we succee we will open the way for more parks in the deserts, for bigger parks in our deserts.
I need your help, I need your practical advices, I need your support.
Let's do our first step!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 9 August 2009 12:19:41 PM
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Dear Antonios,

The following two websites may be of interest to you:

http://www.outback-australia-travel-secrets.com/australian_national_parks.html

and

http://www.outback-australia-travel-secrets.com/australian_deserts.html
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 9 August 2009 1:03:51 PM
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Foxy
The problem with moste people is that they want many things, many changes but they are not ready to do many things for the changes and improvements they want.
WE CAN convert a small part of a desert to a green park, we can create an oasis in the middle of a desert, we can create a small pilot project, transforming our deserts to small green parks or to big forests. The statistics in Australia, the satelites for Sahara desert show that there is higher rainfall in the deserts worldwide.
The desert mouse has already extended its range from the central Australian desert into the western Pilbara, and the number of wild camels in the Australian deserts is increasing.. Parts of the Kimberley even saw their rainfall increase by as much as 300 mm!
http://www.outback-australia-travel-secrets.com/australian-desert.html

Tarek el-Kowmey, points proudly to the banana trees he grows on what was once Sahara sands "All of this used to be just sand," he said. "Now we can grow anything."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Egypt-plans-to-green-Sahara-desert/2007/10/08/1191695781422.html

World's first self-watering desert plant discovered
The rare plant,harvests 16 times the amount of water than otherwise expected for a plant in this region based on the quantities of rain in the desert. The average precipitation in the Negev is only 75 mm per year, yet the plant is able to harvest quantities of water that are closer to that of Mediterranean plants, reaching up to 426 mm per year.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/emergingtech/?p=1642

the Jerusalem pine can grow to 40 feet high and 15 feet wide, and is one of the best, fastest-growing desert trees
http://desertgardens.suite101.com/article.cfm/top_5_low_desert_evergreen_tree

Willow acacia, is a gold flowering tree with weeping branches. Native to Australia, it grows in hot, dry regions, and is well adapted to minimal care' landscapes. Numerous flower clusters run the length of pendulous branches, projecting out lines of golden color. Blooms appear in March and persist for several weeks
http://deserttrees.net/?p=41
It is shamefull that we say so many things and we use so importand words BUT we mean a very small number of them or nothing!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 9 August 2009 6:20:44 PM
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Antonios,

Orange juice, apparently, makes the 'come down' a little less harsh. If in doubt, saline my friend, flushes the system MUCH quicker.

If this DOES - by some miracle - (maybe you need Peter The Believer on side) actually happen I'd suggest bottling your success and sell it to all the farmers.

Good luck.
Posted by StG, Sunday, 9 August 2009 6:52:11 PM
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StG
No much work needed to transform a small part of desert to a green park. The rainfall in deserts continue to increase , there are many trees which can savy and grow up unter less water, we have plenty deserts, we have many successful stories converting deserts parts to banana fields etc.
If people in other countries can do it then we can do it BETTER! but we are lazy one! we want everything but we are not ready to give anything, or we are not ready to work enouph to convert our deserts to green parks and forests.
I am ready to give money and work for it are you ready?
I prefer the acts, I prefer the creation, I prefer to leave something for next generations not simple empty words. ARE YOU?
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 9 August 2009 9:40:01 PM
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Dear Antonios,

So, what's your plan exactly?

So far all we've heard from you is empty words.
Not even important ones!

If you want people to support what you're offering -
you have to tell them what your objectives are,
provide them with information for what exactly
it is you're proposing - where, and how,
how much it will cost et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. -
be specific - then perhaps you'll gain some credibility.
And you certainly won't get people giving you money
if they don't know how you propose to spend it.
Saying something doesn't cost very much - is simply
not good enough - the same as saying, "I want a
park in the desert," doesn't mean anything either.
It's like a guy sitting in a pub and saying to
strangers - "I'd like another beer thanks,"
Yeah right, that's going to happen - as we all
walk out the door and head for our cars.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 9 August 2009 10:24:10 PM
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