Pied Piper, no walks of shame. I've been mildly tipsy a few times but never drunk and I've never been in a situation where a one night stand seemed like a good plan.

There are aspects of casual sex where I doubt that I would be comfortable that I'd done the right thing by myself or the other person. Sometimes I could kick myself for that but mostly it works for me.

R0bert

Fractelle,

'Yabby sees women as either fuckable or not - which was my point all those months ago, Houllie, the one you are STILL dwelling on. Time to move on?'

Such lies. You said all the male posters were liars, more than once, and couldn't bring yourself to retract it, so you made a whole other topic!:-) I will dwell on it to my dying day. I cant believe it would hurt you so much to admit a mistake. If fascinates me.Ah, I rmember it like it was yesterday. Even in the face of six quotes from 6 different posters you wouldn't retract your 'All' men do this and if you disagree you're a liar.

'Houllie, beware you too could wind up like Yabby - alone and paying a fortune to root a 20 something. Or worse fathering a child you don't really want.'

How would that happen? What a weird thing to say. I'm happy with my long term partner and kids thanks. Any surprises (it's a better word than mistake for the poor unexpected child) we would deal with.

Also I'd never go to a hooker. Who wants to shag someone who's doing it for a job? I just don't get it. Even if they were fantastic actresses I don't think I could ever get the idea out of my mind they might be acting. And then if they aren't acting and they were enjoying themselves, well how rude! They should pay me if they're gonna bloody enjoy it! Also condom sex is a waste of time. It's pretty shite all things considered and not worth paying for that's for sure.

Why is it bad to have sex with young people anyway? I thought someone like you would accept age means nothing. Imagine if Yabby banged on about it being gross for a forty year old woman to do it with a 30 year old guy. If you assume the woman would think Yabby's gross, how do you not worry about your hubby really thinking it's gross with you?

*'Houllie, beware you too could wind up like Yabby - alone and paying a fortune to root a 20 something.*

Houllie, she wrote that as she's getting snarly and bitchy, trying to
get back at me somehow and she doesen't really know how else :)

Fraccy really doesen't understand my philosophies, so just invents
her little strawman arguments, as she goes along. It must make her
feel better!

Fact is, the old Bhagwhan was correct, ultimately we are all alone
in this world. That is the reality. Her toyboy might be hit by
a proverbial bus tomorrow, or the attraction of a free "root", (to
use Fraccy's language) might not be enough, some younger,
more attractive thinggy might come along and cut her out.

Speaking of "free roots", John Cleese is seemingly licking his
wounds. He married a girl he found in a council flat in the 90s,
now the divorce cost is seemingly around 16 million$, she's left
with more money then he is! So back to work in his 70s.

All that love, until they hit the divorce courts!

*but due to a mighty mass of hormones that kick in from the start of conception it can mean women, who prior to pregnancy didn't want a child at all, can find themselves very attached to the growing life inside them. In other words they change their minds*

Very true indeed Fraccy! As I always insist, hormones affect behaviour,
even though many on OLO seem to want to deny it.

Well said Fractelle – peace sister. And to the blokes on this thread – the wounded, the bitter and twisted, the guilty and the innocent, ask yourselves why there is now:

A family law court
Refuges and charities to provide sanctuaries for abused woman and children in every Australian state
Government agencies for violence and sexual assault against women and children
Paedophilia - Sex Offenders’ Registration and Monitoring Acts
$1 billion child support debt in Australia
Government housing to accommodate disadvantaged mothers and children
The Commonwealth Criminal Code – Slavery and Sexual Servitude

All at massive costs to the taxpayer. Meanwhile we have the “wounded” male promoting irrational hatred against “man trappers.” The “wounded” accept that it’s fine to use a “free” condom when paying for sex, but wearing a condom is unacceptable if you can get sex for nothing. Curious how they can afford to pay for sex but not child support.

The bashers and paedophiles hide behind the cloak of an “abused” childhood; the missing fathers accuse the mother of fraud and the agencies of bias and all hunger for the return of a patriarchal society.

Alas, for homo-erectus, the enlightened male no longer considers women a possession - a commodity which can be traded for something better. And it is no longer their belief that it’s a woman’s job to obey and to serve men, accepting arguments that their opinions are inferior to those of men.

Statistics confirm that there remains in the West, a large proportion of homo-erectus who believe they can continue inseminating as many young girls (and women) as possible without any consequences.

Simian-brain,Yabby, brags that his shearer friend, got around 5-6 kids spread around the place, to 3-4 different young mothers who were naive enough to believe the sperm donor’s outrageous lies. However, with maturity, naivety can be remedied (though often at great cost to the naive) but the lies from a habitual trickster, cannot.

Piper

I know Yabby loves to wind people up - he's been like this since I started posting here - problem is he actually believes what he is saying, there's no irony intended he gets to offend women and rant like winning a double.

About the picture, in order for the photographer to get the right exposure for the flower inside the shack, it meant overexposing the window, hence the blurred image which people are seeing as a human shape. I can sort of see what you mean. I happen to know the photographer, he lives in South Africa and as well as landscapes, takes photos of the animal life in his area. We both upload photos to a web-site called Renderosity. You should check it out - however I am not going to tell you the name I work under.

Love Nick Cave BTW - used to go to his gigs when he was still with the Birthday Party. Imagine if Kylie Minogue had decided to go into prostitution (because she is attractive) instead of her chosen career.

Houllie

I am not a liar - Yabby has proven time and time again that he values women according to appearance - to the point where he will pay for sex, because there is no way a 20 year would go near him otherwise. There are a lot of men like Yabby, still.

No-one picks that I am older than my partner unless we tell them. I said 42 not 82. BTW Kylie is 41 and you think women over 40 are gross?

Do I have this right? You don't want to pay for sex, but you're not into long term relationships or can't deal with women your own age, if I understand you correctly.

So what're gonna do when you are as old as Yabby?

Protagoras

Thanks. It never ceases to amaze me with OLO that certain men here can offend and denigrate women, but if any woman dares to hold up a mirror to those same men, they really throw a tanty - poor dears.

Fractelle are you on drugs or something?

'I am not a liar - Yabby has proven time and time again '
Yabby has, not the six other posters who you called liars merely for saying they weren't the same as Yabby.

'and you think women over 40 are gross?'
Where on earth did you get that? I said if you think it's gross for Yabby to be with a 20yo, why is it not gross for you to be with a 30yo?

'Do I have this right?'
Ummmm. Not a bit of it.

'but you're not into long term relationships'
Where did you get the idea? Is 7 years long term?

'or can't deal with women your own age'
Huh? My missus is only 2 years younger. Maybe you cant deal with men your own age since your mr is 11 years younger.

'So what're gonna do when you are as old as Yabby? '
How old is Yabby? Age is no barrier to finding suitable sex partners even if I was to end up single. F&ck buddies and Friends with benefits, romantic relationships seemed to work before I committed to someone.