*However, I advise you to read some more and read more widely.*

Hehe Pynchme, your ignorance is kind of cute! As a matter of fact,
the reference library which I have here, would take you many years
to digest, covering everything from neuroscience, primatology,
endocrinology to evolutionary biology. I'm afraid your arts
degree won't do it for you :)

The mountain of evidence is right there, for all those interested,
but as it covers many fields of science, its not all wrapped up
in one easy paragraph, as you seem to want to understand the world.

*Did you just do a complete about face there saying that prostitutes are now on a treadmill rather than the “women just need a reason” line you used earlier?*

Not at all PP. The "reason versus place" argument, when it comes
to differences between men and women, is an old one which still applies.
Some girls follow their instincts, as you and Fraccy have
shown.

Dickie dear, I remind you that David Morgan was asked to join the
board of BHP, not for his skills as a geologist, but his ability
for showing good judgement. In fact most mining stuff ups have
little to do with geology, everything to do with engineering,
forward hedging etc. As we have seen, you let your personal little
pet hates interfere with sound judgement, when it comes to making
business decisions. No wonder there are not more women on company
boards, its a common foible.

A follow on from Houellebecq's post re the prevelance of "drink spiking with illicit drugs - http://www.aifs.gov.au/acssa/pubs/briefing/b2.html

R0bert

Gee, Yabby had to go and look up 3 big words "neuroscience, primatology, endocrinology", then he had to figure out how to use them all in one post so he could impress the masses. He then came up with the reference library idea, put 2 and 2 together and bingo, we now have Yabby's magnificent Reference Library that he's built up. A library that would take lesser beings than him, like Pynchme, "many years to digest". Yes, Yabby has proven that her mere arts degree pales into insignificance compared to his abilities and reference library. Somehow, judging by Yabby's previous post, I tend to think his 'real' reference library consists of saved past copies of Hustler and Playboy, all with the appropriate stains. The reference library idea was a good try Yabby, but come on old boy, you can do better next time.

Wow Mary E, that last post would just about qualify you to join
the OLO sisterhood club. Congratulations! As a relative newbie
you might not as yet be aware of it, but when one of the OLO sisters
is under a bit of pressure, the others all rally to defend her, as
best they can. Its very sweet to watch :)

If you don't believe that I have an extensive reference library
here, well that is what you believe and can't be helped. That is
your concern, not my concern.

Meantime of course, it's possible that you think that primatology,
neuroscience and evolutionary biology are not important when it
comes to understanding human behaviour. Fair enough, that is
your choice. OLO posters like Runner and OUG believe that snap,
crackle, pop, god did the lot!

Meantime, I do actually refer to my extensive reference library
when debating on OLO, so if you have any knowledge about these
topics, feel free to make your point, I'd be happy to debate the
various issues, as I always have on OLO.

Or perhaps, you could just keep trying to shoot the messenger,
on behalf of the sisterhood. You would not be the first :)

Thanks for that Pynchme – I shall have a look at the cruise-line site. It appears also that there's a gap in date rape forensic research. Currently, delaying tests until the next day could render false results:

http://fusion.stolaf.edu/news/index.cfm?fuseaction=NewsDetails&id=4658

Yabby – You do have a penchant for throwing in red herrings to distract us from the previous ludicrous statements you make. Now you assert that men are more competent at managing businesses than women and since you’ve raised the totally irrelevant issue of BHP Billiton, permit me to inform you on just how "competently" the corporate males conduct their operations:

1. Thirty thousand villagers from Papua New Guinea suing BHP/B for $5 billion. “The Ningerum people have suffered from tonnes and tonnes of arsenic, copper, zinc and other heavy metals dumped into this once pristine habitat where they had lived since time immemorial. Experts predicted it would take 300 years to clean up the toxic contamination.

2. "Julian Kelton has told the ABC's 7.30 Report that BHP disposed of equipment, ranging from chemical cleaners to office furniture, in two massive pits on the site of the Ravensthorpe nickel mine since the mine closure was announced in January. He says he helped bury an estimated $1 million worth of equipment.

3. "BHP Billiton attacked for 'half-truths and evasions.' The world's largest mining company, BHP Billiton, was attacked at its Annual General Meeting (London October 2008) for its forced relocations of farming communities in Colombia, its obliviousness to local opposition to mining in the Philippines, and its plan to begin mining nickel in Indonesian-controlled Papua, which will devastate one of the most pristine marine ecosystems in the world.

4, "The West Australian government says it hopes BHP Billiton is "embarrassed" by the five fatalities at its mines in Western Australia this financial year.

Whoops Yabbs – why not stick to what you know best – exporting live sheep to the barbarians? And don’t forget to mark your “favourites” (the ones that don't kick) with a cross now – ya hear?

Piper

You are seeing something in that photo I'm not, sorry for freaking you out.

Speaking of different perspectives apparently I am "stupid" for not agreeing with Yabby's take on life, the universe and everything. That's all it takes disagree on prostitution being a fantastic career option and that stock-broking is even lower down the pecking order of careers one can be proud of doing - and I am called names.

Yabby, if love and sex are the same thing to you, fine. I don't care. To me they are separate - that's my opinion, get over it.

Often I have been told that I am "sitting on a fortune" - the men who have leeringly informed me of this have never been a type I would even consider having a drink with let alone anything else. You only value women according to appearance - not all men do. Now we all like to look at beautiful people, but most of us (male and female) need more than just superficialities. As you have demonstrated, there remains men who do not consider women as fully human - just receptacles, these are the 'males most likely' to skip through if their partner winds up pregnant, when what they really should be doing is paying for their sex-lives to prostitutes and leave the rest of us alone.