I can see it Piper. I thought that's what it was all about. Weird.

Fractelle,

I'm surprised at you.

You've said previously that all men judge women instantly they see them,
deciding instantly whether they are f&ckable or not.
Seeing them is all that is required to decide this.

When I disputed this,
as did other posters,
you called us all liars.

'I know men!' you said.

Now you say...

'not all men do. Now we all like to look at beautiful people, but most of us (male and female) need more than just superficialities.'

Have you been getting some counselling?

Further evidence is you used 'and I am called names.' (ok that's normal/expected for you), but where is ...

'excuse me for having an opinion while being female'?

Are you just toying with me, being lazy, or are you making progress again?

Is Yabby just a poster calling you names, or is he a Male poster calling you names because you are female! Backed up by the biased Graham Y!

You really don’t see the person in the shed standing sort of near the centre veering just a bit to the right of the window Fractelle? I’m glad Houel saw it and I just showed the husband who said it was quite disturbing and he could see the person but said they looked munted. He said it didn’t become disturbing until I said you had mentioned it being a photograph.

You’re not stupid Fractelle, Yabby has just been carrying on this way forever from what I have read. He can't change now because then he’d have to reflect back with some kind of guilt or embaressment and that would just rip his undies.

Typically noting people for what and not who they are, is classic. You’ve got to admire the uncomplicated pattern that emerges each time. So cyclic in its very nature and kind of reassuring that one always knows where this is heading.

Fractelle:”Often I have been told that I am "sitting on a fortune…"

You could get a nasty chill down there baby doll but when you meet men like that mostly you feel so sorry for the past, present and future partners in their lives aye.

Hey Houel, I missed the “all men” comment. Usually all people judge all others instantly, but you know, then it can change. Like Exams comment a while back about a model that was beautiful until she spoke. It’s kind of handy and there must be something in it. I’m hopeless with adult faces and there’s something so wrong with how I recognize grownups but with kids usually with the first glance I can judge a character and where we’re going with this one rather accurately.

Umm… and if particularly attractive or ugly the way adults have treated them has really mattered.

I just veered off on a whole new tangent there. Sorry ‘bout that.

Dickie dear, you make my point for me. Fact is that even for BHP
it is very difficult to find talented management. Now you want to
make that even more difficult and fuss over their sex lives.
Fact is, you'd land up with a bunch of drongos, like our politicians,
for the real smarts would simply not bother. Top entrepreneurs
commonly have a mistress on the side. Packer had one, Pratt had one,
plus a host of others. You seemingly want to make business decisions
based on your private morals about managers sex lives. Stick to
housework lol, for business is clearly not your talent.

*Yabby, if love and sex are the same thing to you, fine. I don't care*

I didn't say that Fraccy, so there you go again, being either stupid
or devious. Either you don't read what I actually write, or you
are being devious, busily creating yet another strawman fallacy to
attack.

*Often I have been told that I am "sitting on a fortune"*

ROFL that is common bloke talk. Some blokes say it in front of
women, some behind their backs. If that gets your knickers in a
twist then you need to learn a bit of tolerance.

The truth is you'd be getting a bit old to claim that now, they
usually say that about younger women :)

PP: “You really don’t see the person in the shed standing sort of near the centre veering just a bit to the right of the window Fractelle? I’m glad Houel saw it and I just showed the husband who said it was quite disturbing and he could see the person but said they looked munted. He said it didn’t become disturbing until I said you had mentioned it being a photograph.”

That picture must be changing each time we look at it, or we’re all seeing different things. What does that say about these debates aye?

Beyond the flower, I see a woman holding a baby inside a picture frame. Anyone else?

The freakiest thing for me, is that Fractelle introduces it with “Life is Irony”, and sees nothing inside the frame. She describes it as “The picture I linked - not a painting it is a photograph of a flower growing inside an old shack towards the light. Its real - that is why I like it.” I wonder what else she does not see. Ironic maybe, but definitely spooky.

PP: “I missed that… were you goading me Seeker?”

No way PP. You missed it because it wasn’t there.

Lmfao Mary - that was a great response. Hilarious. Yabby's was nearly as funny in it's own way.

The other part of Yabby's whole line of argument beyond that post, is that he thinks that foisting a pasty, saggy oldster's body on a 20 something year old is a win-win situation. Sure he gets to use the young body, but he doesn't even see that keenly seeking; and especially paying, to be the source of someone else's revulsion makes him pathetic. Unless of course he looks like Sean Connery, in which case I withdraw my comment.

That was a good article R0bert - thank you for posting it.

Btw Yabby, I don't have an Arts degree (although I fully respect those who do).