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Missing Fathers evade Responsibiliy for their children.
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Posted by Protagoras, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 4:54:15 PM
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Protagoras,
Not sure what any of that has to do with my post that was all about men protecting themselves from unwanted pregnancies. I have a suggestion though. Maybe those women could buy their own drinks. I do suspect this 'drink spiking' is a bit of an urban myth anyway. It's a very convenient excuse for young people (male and female) who drink too much and regret their drunken actions the next day. You cant tell me someone can become passed out drunk from drinking a double vodka rather than a single. Even if you have 3 in an hour and someone has made them doubles, you feel drunk, and say 'I've had enough to drink thanks' next time you're asked. Anyway with the drink costs in Sydney you'd soon be paying more for drinks than you would if you went to one of Yabby's brothels! Man I wish people would spike my drinks, it would save me a fortune. Posted by Houellebecq, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 5:14:14 PM
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Dear Antonios,
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Fractelle”The picture I linked - not a painting it is a photograph of a flower growing inside an old shack towards the light. Its real - that is why I like it.”
You’re kidding. That just changed the whole thing for me, now I’m even more freaked out. “…yes you do meet a star or two.” Yep you read me like a book. Yabby:”Ah, there is some truth coming out from PP! Like they say, women need a reason, men need a place. Instinct matters.” Good one Yabster. You just read me like a person who has never even seen a book. Houel:”You cant tell me someone can become passed out drunk from drinking a double vodka rather than a single. Even if you have 3 in an hour and someone has made them doubles, you feel drunk, and say 'I've had enough to drink thanks' next time you're asked.” Not the young chicky babes, 18 year olds etc. They have absolutely no idea how much they’ve had and when drunk they think they want more. But I agree I think drink spiking is rarer than reported, not a single fact to support that one just a feeling. Prostitutes... now I’ve met some very keen ones but I think if I won lotto I’d just hire a nanny to help and have even more kids – does anyone think a prostitute would hang on to their job? Posted by The Pied Piper, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 5:46:41 PM
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Piper
<< now I’m even more freaked out. >> Its a flower... not a triffid. Yabby I don't know any parents recommending prostitution as a good career move, although there are those who recommend stock broking (work that creates nothing but also pays well - at least prostitution requires a creative flair). Your claims about prostitution being an ace job is kind of like those claims about single mums raking in a fortune, (brilliant segue, Fractelle) you don't see them buying up masses of blue chip shares or driving Porsches. Back when I still worked in Public Housing, I was at a dinner party hosted by my then partner's parents and they seated me next to a stock broker. Usual polite chit-chat regarding what we did for a living blah, blah, blah; the stock broker went into a little tanty over the money single mothers raked in, especially the ones who had children from different fathers (I know there's no more money if there are different fathers - unlike doing a threesome in prostitution). When he finished, I, ever so courteously, (I was at my partner's parents') asked him how many single mums he had as clients. Now this is the amazing fact, he didn't hold any portfolio's for single mums. Who'da thunk it? For the sake of the dinner party I did not ask how many estranged dads held stock portfolios with him. Now we are back to where we started. :-) Posted by Fractelle, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 6:27:07 PM
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Yes I agree that both the guy and girl need to be responsible for their own actions or face the concequences.
But! what gives the girl the right to allow this one nighter to become a child on behalf of both parties? What if the tables were turned and the guy wanted the child but the girl decided not to keep it. What rights does the father have? Why can the mother decide to have the child, against the wishes of the guy, then persue the guy. Is this fair? Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 7:08:50 PM
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Yep Yabby - you know the economy is all about supply and demand but of course it's also often to do with an executive's generous expense account, replete with a few bodgie receipts which is of added value to the sex industry.
And how buoyant would that industry be if female mining executives chose to go to male brothels for a "lunchtime special?" On the hand, since I'm from mining stock, I'm reminded that female mining executives have more respect for their families and prefer to lunch with their associates rather than cheat on their spouses (and their shareholders), by using expense accounts to pay for a quick poke with a perfect stranger.