Piper

As an extra there are no lines to learn - you just do what the director tells you. An extra is more like set decoration or a prop - but you get paid for it and fed, rates are between $20 to $25 P.H. If you are a featured extra - like an advert where a face can be clearly discerned - the money is way better, instead of an hourly rate it is a lump sum payment. And if you get to say a line - party on! As for frequency of work - not enough, but it is a lot of fun and you meet some fantastic people, yes you do meet a star or two.

Yabby

I was asking you to imagine working as a prostitute (yes there are some horrible jobs) but you seem unable to 'get' what prostitution is about - the inherent risks, broken condoms, STD's, even violence can occur in a well managed brothel. Having lived in St Kilda for some time I got to know a lot of working girls. One of the reasons some women choose to work streets is that they can turn clients away - unlike in brothels where a good reason is needed like an obvious case of herpes. Your "empathy" for the work of prostitution ends and starts with your ....

As Piper clearly pointed out it is not always possible (or practical) to earn a fast dollar when facing a toothache. Even though I know how to act, I doubt I'd be very convincing when in need of root canal (that's an infected tooth, Yabby - not a sex act).

What is it about SOME men, they want casual sex, but have issues if it results in a pregnancy? Use a condom AND lube - condoms do break. You want to live dangerously? Then take the consequences.

'What is it about SOME men, they want casual sex, but have issues if it results in a pregnancy? Use a condom AND lube - condoms do break. You want to live dangerously? Then take the consequences.'

I agree. Be responsible for yourself. If you don't want kids, don't leave it to someone else's diligence.

But Fraccy, the woman who is always going on about empathy. Why do you have no empathy for the man who has no say in whether his mistake ends up costing him 18 years of his life? The woman who also made that same mistake can have an abortion, the guy has no choice in the matter. Now I have empathy for any woman having to be pregnant for 9 months for example, but you seem to have zero empathy for any man as evidenced on this thread.

Which, you men on this thread, is why guys should be much more keen on protecting themselves than women. If a women doesn't want a baby, she has a second chance (even a third if you count the morning after pill), the guy doesn't. He's left at the mercy of the women's choice, as he will likely be again when it comes round to who goes to work and who stays home with the kiddies.

Fact of life, protect yourself. If women can accept they have to go through labour, surely you can accept you have no choice in the matter when contraception fails.

*wouldn't it be more "practical" for men to stop giving away their sperm ? Maybe if they were smart enough, they'd hold out and charge for their services.*

Pynmche, a comment like that can only lead me to conclude that a good
education was wasted on you, if you don't even understand basic
evolution theory :)

* I’m afraid myself, and probably a lot of other women, except under extreme circumstances, just can’t do it with just anyone at anytime. If we could you males would all be broke all of the time because why would there be any other way?*

Ah, there is some truth coming out from PP! Like they say, women
need a reason, men need a place. Instinct matters.

Fraccy, you are seemingly unaware how the internet, mobile phones
etc, have changed the sex industry. Perth today is a city with
huge money around, from mining. So called private escorts, ie
girls running their own businesses, on their own terms, is what
its all about these days. In the CBD they do "lunchtime specials"
for 500$, or 3 grand for a night. For mining executives
away from their families, that is beer money.

We are not talking clapped out drug addicts here, as might be
common in Melbourne's brothels. Google "Perth Private Escorts"
if you want to check them out :)

Piper

The picture I linked - not a painting it is a photograph of a flower growing inside an old shack towards the light. Its real - that is why I like it.

Yabby

I know what a mobile phone is - you are just so insulting. In fact I know quite a lot. Prostitution has been legal in Victoria for years - there are some very classy establishments around town and some not so glamorous too.

Now I know you want to live in happy-land and believe that all working-girls retire to live in monetary splendour for the rest of their lives.

Doesn't work like that. The women only have a few years in which to make their money, the most successful ones are those who manage to pay off a mortgage and go back to civilian life. Many others, in order to cope with the err 'variety' of clients do take drugs either to limit the 'yuk' factor or to stay awake during what can be long working hours.

You ask why more attractive women don't do it for a living? Well may be if you actually sat down and thought it through you might just understand.

But, you're dreamin' mate, you probably think that the working girls you see actually fancy you.

“Fact of life, protect yourself."

Houellebecq

We now have the issue of drink spikers in this country where it’s reported that there are some 4,500 victims annually and over 40% have been sexually molested.

The last thing on a male’s mind when molesting a semi-conscious or unconscious woman, is a condom and a moment's silence please for victim, Diane Brimble. One of her perpetrators, Silvestri told police that Brimble was an "ugly dog", she smelled, and he wouldn't talk to "anything that's over 60 kilos".

Now Diane Brimble's dead and Silvestri's on the loose!

And how many missing fathers, one wonders, were drink spikers?

The Bureau of Criminal Investigation advises that these rapes are significantly under-reported and in a separate survey during 2007, about half admitted to deliberately mixing cocktails too strong to get their victim more drunk.

Sixteen per cent said they had added extra alcohol shots to alcoholic drinks, including wine and beer

Six per cent had added alcohol to non-alcoholic drinks, including soft drinks or hot chocolate

The Western Australia Police Service, Alcohol and Drug Co-ordination Unit have published a paper:

“Take away her freedom and you could lose yours.”

The Australian government's findings of a sexual assault survey, conducted during the 90’s found almost 60 per cent of the 2642 victim/survivors who responded to the survey had been raped more than once in their lives.

Nearly half of the respondents (46 per cent) described incidents that had occurred over a decade earlier. Moreover, a staggering 37 per cent of all those who responded had, prior to the survey, never told anyone about their experiences (Easteal 1992).

The survey estimated that 1.2 million Australian women (18 per cent) had experienced at least one incident of sexual violence from age 15 years and over, and that one-third of these have experienced more than one incident.

Brute force is on the increase but “consensual” sex? En garde gentlemen for “if it’s not on, it’s not on!” Your choice – your responsibility! No more duckshoving thank you!

*I know what a mobile phone is - you are just so insulting*

Fraccy I should frigging hope that you know what a mobile phone
is. That did not stop you not understanding my point, or just
inventing your own strawman argument.

Fact it that the combination of the internet with mobile
phones, has changed and continues to change the sex industry in
WA. Smart girls don't work in brothels anymore, they keep 100%
of the profits for themselves and run their own businesses on
their terms. Good on them!

*Now I know you want to live in happy-land and believe that all working-girls retire to live in monetary splendour for the rest of their lives*

Now where did I say that? Fraccy, you live in dreamland.

*Many others, in order to cope with the err 'variety' of clients do take drugs*

Hehe, so the druggie finds another excuse to justify their addiction
and you believe every word? Fraccy, you are gullible! They could
after all quit the drugs and stop being a hooker.

*You ask why more attractive women don't do it for a living?*

Hang on, check out some of those high class private escorts. They
are better looking then most pub girls! Its your drug addicts
who are working in the brothels.

*But, you're dreamin' mate, you probably think that the working girls you see actually fancy you.*

Fraccy, at times you can be so smart and at times so frigging stupid.

I have long ago pointed out to you that love and sex are based on
self interest. As I don't have your self esteem problems, I could
not give a hoot what any cute 20 year old thinks of me and nor
could any other self assured bloke that I know of. Blokes screw
these girls for the sheer fun of it, natural instincts satisfied.

They are service providers, without a bloke having to tell a bunch
of lies at the pub or face the hassles of baby claims for 20 years
or a divorce bill going into the millions. Its a win-win situation.