OK under one god (uog), you obviously know all the answers, and you "know" people who don't share your beliefs are "simpltons" (sic), "suckers", "liars" and "gullable (sic) fools" - - - - - - - - all "your" words (though I would suggest you get some remedial help with your spelling cobber).

Now uog, seeing you're the font of all knowledge, maybe you could answer my following question regarding this "one god" you're "under":

If your god is FACT...PRESENT YOUR PROOF.

Notice the word is "PROOF", not "evidence".

master..your a wise man..[and forgive me using strong language]..its just that i was indoctrinated away from god,..till arround 1996..by which time i had proved to myself..[after twenty years researching evoltion/mendelic inheritance etc..that evolution was fraud

i ended my studies and thought to just go walkabout...it didnt take long to realise the reality of god...simply by study of nature..[not science].in time i studied the holy texts..[from many beliefs,..purly to know this living loving god,..i realised must live..live time..[in real time..all the time]...

via the texts..i concluded that god must be by nature good...that his good still voice..speaks to all of us...simply by following good thoughts flowing through our minds..[ie a personal good[god]..like jesus reveals..who in real time...gives us all..comfort/love

yeah..im a very bad speller...but god dont seem to care about us/me spelling correctly...lets face it..if..the only thing people can/..critisize me about..is..not/what i say...but usually only their complaint is..about the way i spelled it out

i know god is a reality..[for a fact]...but hey..i know for a fact evolution is fraud too...but you clearly dont../have an opinion either way...

you didnt ask for me to give proof about evolutions fraud...but its hard to dis-prove a negative..[aparently]...so i broke down the proof./..others thought...to prove evolution...

so i will make the same deal to you...offer your proof/..there is no god..and i will refute it

see i know..because of the daily..[live time]..proof's..god gives those who believe...the same proofs..you would dismiss..as chance or luck..[or lunicy]...

like..god's own...[and even the anti-god lot]..have syncronicity...this i cant prove to you...its only you../that can validate..[or invalidate]..it..for you...

if your expecting some formulated proof..you will be disapointed...

presume to know../god knows whats in our heart...god needs prove nothing to anyone...god dont beg...first comes belief then infinite proofs follow..one to one...believed to believer

im sorry..if thats not the answer you wanted..[but its the answer god[or other influx../conveyed into my mind..thus i convey it to you...as imperfectly..as i can translate the mind imagry..that inspired these images..now transcribed into words

Thanks for the answer uog.

There's only one reason I asked that question of you (I already knew exactly what the reply would be like). The reason is, in your previous post you demanded that people who believe in evolution provide proof of evolution. So I thought it only reasonable that we apply "exactly" the same standards of proof to you, that you expect from others.

Your reply, of course, shows no proof whatsoever, but of course I already knew that would be your reply.

Most people who believe in god, generally know the existence of god can't be proven (keeping in mind that there's many "versions" of god - - - - - with the adherents believing that "their" god is the one, true god). That's precisely why the many religions have "FAITH" and "BELIEF" as their cornerstone. If we KNEW a god existed, if we could PROVE a god existed, then belief and faith would be totally redundant: It would simply be unnecessary to "believe" in a god, because we'd KNOW the deity existed - - - - it would be unnecessary to have "faith" that a god existed, because we'd KNOW the deity existed.

Therefore, "faith and belief" continue to be the cornerstone of deity worship.

Why?

Because there's not one shred of proof that a god exists.

BUT - - -

Because most worshipers know this, they can easily handle the question "Can you prove your god exists". Why? Because their "faith and beliefs" require ZERO proof. So the fact that there is zero proof is pretty much meaningless to them. After all, they "believe" they know their god exists because their "faith" in god tells them so.

And they're entitled to that faith and belief, if that's their choice in life: Just as another person is fully entitled to walk a different path.

AH...M-ASS-TER YOU VERY CLEVER MAN...you too clever by far...you claim god dosnt egsist...i say even a simple bacteria is proof god egsists..[make...just one..LIVING bacteria..but you cant..because your ignorant..[in denial]...

you deney god...yet cant even concieve even simple life..from your own knowing/doing..even your most clever scientist..has been unable to make ..even..the simplest lifeform...

i care..not in the least../to make you believe..[in anything..you dont want to believe in]...freewill..[freechoice]..is very important to god..[god dont want mindless slaves]

but lets say..i proved god to be real..[right now]...would that affect your belief in god...or would you be in denial still...

if you knew god..to be real..[you would lose your free-..will to sin]..and im..not saying..your any sort of sinner...just that god lets us chose..to believe or not...

freewill is an important thing...god dosnt want blind obediance...he actually enjoys..you/us..futile/puny ants..made from mere dust..standing against him...

he enjoys freewill/driven spunk...its amusing like watching a miniature-dog..trying/futily to carry a huge bone

these wishy washy weak in faITH TYPES...make me sick...im being insulting..because..now im not self censering..not trying to channel good..i admire satan..to a cetain extent..[the least../that yet is greater than the baptiser]..for refusing gods command..to bow before adam...the clay goyam

mankind..to me..is a pathetic creature,..full of weak failings,...not even willing to give..that..of god.../back to god...god created you/me/us/all...loves you lot..enough..to give you the freewill..to even chose..to deney him

be gratefull i dont wish to prove god..to you..[or perhaps be more happy..you cant disprove god to me...you see..because god is love...i try very hard to love others#..as i know god does...but once..one of you retards..actually disproves god...i will return to type

to explain..when i bred thousands of animals..to test evolutions theory..[i would cull the offspring...by pulling off their heads...that was done..unthinkingly..because thats what us athiest/science types do...

but after discovering god..i realised it was a mindless/sensless act..to muder innocent animals..i bred..only to test a theory...

but what if..you prove god..not to be real,..frightens me..im likely to revert../to the murdering scientist i was...

good thing i know god wouldnt want that...because i know god is real...so give proof..or pull your head in..cant be bothered finding nicer words

That last post of your's uog, is full of so much sadness and skewered thinking it's mind boggling, but not unexpected.

I did NOT claim that god doesn't exist.
I claimed that there was no "proof" that god existed.

According to you, your so called "PROOF" that god exists is "simple bacteria". You then go on to imply, because "I" can't make bacteria (owing to me being ignorant and in denial you say) then that PROVES god made bacteria. You'd make a GREAT comedian cobber.

Ummm uog, the fact that bacteria exists DOES prove something - - - IT PROVES THAT BACTERIA EXISTS. The mere existence of something does NOT prove how it came to be. Better luck next time with that old, well known tactic uog.

You write "god don't want mindless slaves". Well cobber, it sounds like he's pulled the wool over your eyes - - - - but that's ok, you're allowed to continue believing that you're an independent and free thinker. Ha ha.

You wrote, "let's say I proved god to be real right now. Would that affect your belief in god?" Well uog, how do you know I don't already think god is "real" and how do you know I don't believe in god? And how do you know that either the existence of, or non existence of, "proof" has anything to do with whether I do, or do not, believe in god? Like many confused god worshipers (I wouldn't classify you as a Christian)you make lot's of "assumptions".

It's interesting that you say you "admire satan", and that you know god "enjoys" us "puny ants" "standing against him", and that you think "mankind is a pathetic creature".

You wrote, "be grateful I don't wish to prove god to you". Umm uog, you tried to do JUST THAT in your first paragraph. Ha ha. But seriously I see you as a very, very sad and lost person. It's a shame. I think you need the good company of some "real" Christian people. You probably need psychiatric care, but there's no shame in that.

I came across a thread on OLO awhile ago and read a brief argument about whether or not Stephen Hawkings believed in god. Not sure why that made a difference to anything or anyone what one mans (no matter how brilliant at anything else) beliefs were/are.

I think it is the different IQ’s – social, academic, etc. There must be a “faith IQ”, separate from the rest. From what I have seen on documentaries and read about any religion is that people have some receptors in the brain for group activities such as in church and that faith stimulates something to make us happier/ releases happy chemicals. I think one program I watched suggested either humans were wired for belief or susceptible to beliefs because we were wired a certain way.

I also read that when humans worshipped the moon and were hunters that the women were important but then we starting growing crops we began worshipping the sun and the men then became important.
Why was it always something in the sky? Why do cults now often believe UFO’s are coming? Something else in our brains make always look outside of where we exist for answers?

And now we have moved on where without the bible our laws do not protect us? But is the belief in the Christian god important or just acknowledging that Australia would function better if we returned to these laws that first came from a bible?