It is seemed to me that religious persons found the ease way to answer to many and difficult questions withouht to use their brain!
For everything there is the same answer! The god, and close to their god the DARK AGES!
I am atheist sir! Because I do not know how to make life, how to make difficult complex things does not mean that the god exist. I am learning, study the human history how many primative gods died because humans learned more from what these gods knew.
We are only at begin!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid

Sancho,
The second of your links is really witty, I did not know of it, so thanks. It could be fun to try to assign various types of “flame warriors“ to several contributors on this OLO, naturally only as a mental exercise.

As to your other link, it appealed to me immediately, since it starts like the famous Apple commercial (and I am a staunch Mac OS X adherent). So I watched it twice and tried to understand its point. It revolves around concepts like evidence, proof, logic that have a more or less universally accepted meanings in everyday situations. However, when referring to basic existential questions (as what actually exists and in what sense, c.f. metaphysics), one has to be more careful with how one uses them, and not confuse them with what is better known as "common sense" (and since Einstein and QM - or even more recent theories in physics - we know that "common sense" is not always a good guide as to what exists, and how can we know it, even within reality investigated by science).

So at the level of "common sense", the video serves its purpose to reassure those who agree with its premises though I do not think it can satisfy/convert those with a wider perspective. Nevertheless I am sure I am not the only one who had fun watching it.

Foxy,

"Personal transformation can and does have global
effects. The revolution that will save the world is
untimately a personal one..."

Foxy you've been watching Ten Years Younger in Ten Days haven't you

“Philo, atheism is the "NON WORSHIP" of, and non "belief" in, a deity. Atheism is defined NOT by what it believes, but by what it DOESN'T believe. Atheism, by it's very nature, does not believe in deities and does not worship deities.” – Master

Not necessarily. Atheism can be disbelief in an alterative religion or theism. The Ancient Romans maintained the early Christians were atheists, because they believed in one god, thus lacking the cross-theistic civility of the pagani

1.As you know when I will die I will go direct to the hell. From one hell to an other hell! Already I found work in the kitchen of the hell, I will coock croock's and hypocrities' seouls. No problem with human seouls I know their earthy materials. My question is if UFO seoul's go to the hell or not. I do not know their material and may be I burn my self. I read the holy books about UFO but I did not find anything about them. I supposed the god/gods are waiting from the humans to find something about UFO and in the next god' version to write something about UFO!
2. I know that for many centuries rich criminals paid money and god forgived all their crimes. I understand and I agree that all these criminal's seoul must go to the heaven! The business is business, the contract is contract! My question is about the religious leaders seouls, where are their seouls, to the heaven or to the hell of cause their coruption? If their seouls went to the hell will they be representatives from the god in the hell or as every one's else seoul and I can coock them?
3. As you know for the same god there are various versions and each one different from the other. For many centuries thousands of people burned from the church in the name of the god. In the latest version of the god, these things are crimes and their seouls will go direct to the hell. I want to know when I will coock the seouls I will use various versions from the same god or the latest one! If I use the latest version of the god most seouls even from the most popes will go to the hell! but if I use the version of the dark ages then all seouls, exept from mine, and whitches, will go to the heaven!
4. How many versions of a god we can make, before we decide that it is time for new god/gods?

Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

as...its futile to say anyone is going to heaven or hell...we dont really know...how it works is the same personality types hang arround the same realm's...all who love murder are in the same place...loving to murder..only each other for eternity

in the after life are many realms,from the lowest hell..[where those who decieved others...by deliberatly lying..[decieving people away from knowing god...is good..sink down to[that lies in the dark realm]up to the realm's of light..where many who led people to love live

the safest thing if you dont know god is just to forget[if you decieve others away from god it gets dangerous[to our spiritual well being]..if you recall the inquisition..[where people thought to buy iundulgences...or permission to sin and many good people were killed...simply for following the wrong religion...these types are in hell

not in the same place asa murderors..or rapists or thieves or,lovers of gold dwell but inj hell non the less...from what i have seen of you by your previous posts you will be in the middle reaLM..[not in the light of heavens..[but not in the darknes of true hell

anyhow its not god that judges us[nor that any judge us...but that the good or bad we love to do draws us to those who love the same things...there are many..[uncountable realms]..the only thing that counts is the good we did..[or the bad we didnt do]

when you helped those strikers...your earned spiritual credit[i dont kknow whats in your heart./..but if you dont believe in god...dont be making others follow your ignorance...if your talking about something you dont believe in...stick with stuff you know

in case you want to know more i suspect it goes something like as written in these stories
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/newviews/gonewest.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/newviews/wsltoc.html

but like anything..do your own research...it might not seem inportant to do good for others...but there just might come a time..you will be glad you helped others as i am sure you have

if only religion's.. would explain the truth about god...there wouldnt be so many of them in hell