I can only judge on what I see here, Master sorry but in you I see things you may not wish to hear.
Remember you have had your say on me.
I see a failure to understand the issue, a willingness to side track the debate up your own lost creek.
It is not about migration.
It never was.
Yes quote your quotes but understand in my mind without doubt migration has always been good for this country, and those who come and came.
Among that group and their children are some of our very best.
And many share my concerns, difference? yes some differences frighten me, and so they should.
I share some of Banjos thoughts, first hand one on one confrontation with a hand full of second generation Lebanese Australian by birth , concerns me.
You act out your beliefs if you must but while I will not speak more of how I see you you must not claim to think for me.
I am Of Boat people origin too, English prison ships, I am of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, maybe a pinch of Pommy too.
My family has wed into German Greek, Maltese, Dutch, American, Aboriginal, and no doubt by now other races I judge every one by their actions, understand it is fear not hate that turns some migrants eyes away as I walk past but always say Gday mate.
This thread is about boat people, uninvited migration, people smuggling, it is about our country's future,
Lets keep you failure to understand out of it.
Jewely you are Aussie I never thought differently, ok you complain about us like a Kiwi or pom but it is your country look deeper into your mate Antonio do not take his line please look for the good in us too haveagoodweekend .

Banjo I will try but I too will cop it, from my side of center, see I firmly am from just left of center my party the ALP is evolving.
Lets start with the UN dump China and Russia, for a while ignore their veto's just act.
No joy in reminding you Britain and America others too Spain Holland and Portugal, used trade to create many of todays problems.
China while looking good in Africa is serving its own self interests now.
My view? not worth the effort giving aid to country's like Zimbabwe until the government is removed.
ALL aid should come via every country to the UN for distribution, food or aid.
Hard as it is wrong as it is we must play a roll in getting grubs out of government in say Somalia and tens of other country's only the UN could do it without looking like colonialism .
Sorry but we should protect some poor nations, trade give them exclusive rights to sell same things to make industry's.
Every country in the world should have birth control some breed much faster than others straight into a life of hell poverty or death, and we should not help them do it.
How mad, insane, is it too not be concerned that here in our own country we are being over taken in the birth rates?
We you and I from different sides of the fence should not fear confronting our detractors, my party has only gained power because they bought middle Australian to them.
Minority's often get nasty ,it becomes the only weapon they have and its a blunt stick against a cannon.

Master“1) Just like in the previous 64 years, we can take at least 6,800,000 migrants/refugees over the next 64 years
2)Yes that's correct. Our economy will grow and prosper with the new migrants, just as it has in the past 64 years with the old migrants.
3) New migrants/refugees, just like the Aussies already here, and just like the 6,800,000 new Aussies over the past 64 years, become SELF SUFFICIENT and GREAT contributors to our economy”

You are a treasure Master. Finally a number and it is above 10,000 Boat People! What on earth were we all so worried about?

Belly I don’t understand your objections…?

“Jewely you are Aussie I never thought differently, ok you complain about us like a Kiwi or pom but it is your country look deeper into your mate Antonio do not take his line please look for the good in us too haveagoodweekend .”

Just yanking your chain Belly. Really I haven’t been here hardly any time at all to feel like an Aussie yet, can’t say I feel like a Kiwi now either. I am happy just helping little Aussies for now and I do feel I am home. But this was before I found out about your cannon and the poor minorities with the sticks. I hope your weekend is also going well too.

Banjo baby: “Medical people say that those girls that suffered FGM here years ago are now having it done to their daughters, despite extensive education, and the incidence is increasing.”

Arrest them for torture and mutilation and abuse for goodness sakes! You know how the Aussie parents abuse their kids and they come in to foster care, how come they don’t get arrested and charged?

Luddy: “CJ, I lay on the beach on Balding Bay, Magnetic Island last weekend, Pallarenda Beach yesterday and Bushland Beach today. Divine!”

Oh you sod, I sat in my kitchen covered in baby drool typing with one hand. Where are these places and can I come?

Banjo
We have a huge problem with the prices of commercial and residential land with the prices of houses, units, and comercial buidings.
Logicaly the prices of the houses, units, comercial buidings should be cheap compering with other countries BUT THEY ARE NOT!
I found in some advertisments the construnction of a three bedroom house for $90.000, But to buy this house you pay at least $350.000 or more.
It means the high prices of houses are not from the construction but from the land and taxes!
What can we do about it?
1. Make easier for people to use their blocks, building extensions, units, or use caravans on them etc. We do not have to pay rent assist for aged people if we permit them to build an extension on their children' blocks, or to put a caravan on them . With this way we save taxpayers money and we press the prices from the houses, the rents, land etc lower.
2. We could create an organization, state or federal for land development, to buy land and convert it to cheap blocks. If the owners thing their land is very expensive no problem, let's pay taxes on the high prices! We have many ways to press the owners from the farms/fields and land developers for logical prices but we do not do anything
3. Convert big parts of state, federal or community land to cheap blocks.
I think Federal, state and local governments serve openly land developer's and construncion company's and they do not care at all for people's needs. The 500.000 foreign students drive the rents to the sky, low income australians, have huge problems to pay their rents, their children are hangry because their income goes to landlords!

The Pied Piper I agree you my good friend, some times you need a hook to extract the real meaning from my posts! But you can understand the basic meaning of them, sure they are not so bad as they seem!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Pied Piper, You Say
<<Banjo baby: “Medical people say that those girls that suffered FGM here years ago are now having it done to their daughters, despite extensive education, and the incidence is increasing.”

Arrest them for torture and mutilation and abuse for goodness sakes! You know how the Aussie parents abuse their kids and they come in to foster care, how come they don’t get arrested and charged?>>

Good question! FGM is against the law in all states. Last time I asked the NSW Health Minister why not one person had been charged with FGM related offences the answer I received from her office was 'there are cultural considerations' Every now and then we see media articles about cockfights being raided and people charged so I can only conclude that the welfare of roosters is of more concern to the government than little Aussie girls having pieces cut off them. Work that out.

Belly,
I have been arguing against multiculturalism and the 'illegal alien entrants' and for lowering immigration for years so being called racist is nothing new to me. It is generally the first attack of those who differ. But I never ever considered that you would also be included as a racist as well. Considering where the allegation comes from I do not think you will be unduly concerned.

Antonios,
The housing matter is interesting and deserves a new thread. Please think about reproducing similar post to start a new discussion

“Oh you sod, I sat in my kitchen covered in baby drool typing with one hand. Where are these places and can I come?”

You poor girl Jewely! Covered in baby drool. Oowgawwd howhorrbl!

I’m in Townsville, north Queensland. Check out Google maps for the places that I mentioned. http://maps.google.com.au/maps?utm_campaign=en_AU&utm_medium=ha&utm_source=en_AU-ha-apac-au-bk-gm&utm_term=google%20maps

Come on up. I can thoroughly recommend a visit, autumn, winter or spring.

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Thanks Master for your comprehensive overview. You are apparently a passionate, forthright and knowledgeable person.

I look forward to addressing your comments… tomorra wen im sober !