“The environment is used as a convenient argument by some people to cover the real motivation for their opposition to refugees/migration.”

Yoohoo Master – you’re - a - silly – sausage - banger. Oops. Will he hit the delete button? Now Master, are you 100% sure about that or 99.9%?

And so, as the sun rises on the twenty first century (as did many of the dead on election day), we have the Master dictating to Aussies on how not to be a racist.

Permit me to reminisce – if it pleases the Master? Ah – yes the days of decentralisation and canvas lined humpies. There was Drago the garlic muncher, Diamond Bum, Broody, one of the "Yugoslavs" who became a millionaire, buying up old dumps for a couple of hundred pounds and fixing them up with his bare hands.

Then we had Christina, who made the most divine dolmades, Affy the cameleer (boy did you stink if the camel sucked your arm), Jim the German, Mick the Ding who would ply all the neighbours with an excellent grappa and so on and the entire neighbourhood would ride their bikes to the salt lakes for a swim – most jabbering in broken English along the way. Can’t do that anymore - there’s no water in the salt lakes – just salt!

And not a whinge out of any of them ever, except when Mick the Ding lost at baccarat!

In 1947 and 1954 Australia resettled about 170,000 refugees - many from Poland, who’d fled the Second World War and the Holocaust. Following this influx Australia accepted large humanitarian intakes of Hungarians, Czechs and Slovaks.

By 1986 Australia had resettled 100,000 Indo-Chinese refugees. Still with us Master?

Enter the 21st century and the evolution of bleeding hearts and the racial discrimination act which has given the Master a purpose in life – that is to rule supreme, defending those poor hapless refugees from the rampant abuse of the ignorant, stormtrooping natives.

Get a life Master – glupi!

The current Labour Government (even though I didn't vote for them) has got the balance fairly right, for the time being. Is it "perfect"? Well no, and yes, depending on one's perspective. No "one" policy will ever please everyone, no matter what it is.

Over the next 30 or so years ALL countries will be FORCED, through "necessity and self preservation", to SHARE THE LOAD. I've already said it's this "sharing the load" that will solve the refugees' horrible plight. All countries will benefit from their new citizens.

If this is done * *gradually* *, EVERY country will have to marginally adjust their overall standards of living - - - - TEMPORARILY, and because of the shared responsibilities the economies will NOT suffer anything other than an initial minor hiccup or two. And in the medium/long term the economies will BENEFIT GREATLY from their new citizens - - - - as has been shown throughout history when resettlement is appropriately done.

There's one thing you DON"T do though!

You DON'T wait until economic conditions, social conditions, religious conditions or environmental conditions are at a stage of * *PERFECTION* * before either migrants or refugees are allowed in. Why? Because that stage is NEVER, EVER reached at any time, in ANY country. It's an EXCUSE people use to disparage refugees and migrants, an excuse that frees them to show a very basic INHUMANITY that's all too common amongst a minority (often a large minority).
If all countries wait till conditions are PERFECT, then refugees will rot where they are; they'll have NO hope. And Banjo and people of that ilk will probably feel happy and secure.

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If the load is not shared by the world, then there will NEVER be a workable and humane solution to the ongoing refugee problems. The world will only act in unison on this matter when the problem becomes so big and so acute, that they'll have NO CHOICE (out of self preservation) but to act as one in order to solve the horrendous and shameful plight of refugees.

One day, probably over several hundred years away, there will be free travel between countries, just like there's free travel between NSW and Queensland (subject of course to the usual health, security, environmental and legal issues involved).

I see a bright future where the various countries are separate and autonomous, yet with a "world" perspective that displays a cooperative, mutually supportive approach. There will be no religious world war as the more paranoiac among us believe; they show a VERY basic misunderstanding of how Islam operates in the world (people equate "fundamentalism" with "ordinary" Islam; yes ignorant people love to wallow in their paranoia). These people FEAR Islam, some even fear Christianity, just like they FEAR refugees and migrants.
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Here's a little message to Protagoras:

"Racism" has nothing to do with it. DUH! ! ! It's a cultural issue for the paranoia driven idiots here. They FEAR DIFFERENCE. Yes, Australia resettled all those people - - - - wonderful isn't it, and boy we've sure benefited from it all BIG TIME. But like the idiot Banjo who attempted to demonise refugees, you now do a similar thing by pointing out specific migrants who failed to be good citizens here. You are sooooo stupid Protagoras - - - I've ALREADY pointed out that:

REFUGEES AND MIGRANTS ARE NO BETTER, AND NO WORSE, THAN THE PEOPLE ALREADY HERE.

Better luck next time Protagoras.

Pied Piper,
Or - Fact: All migrants I personally know throughout my history have made FANTASTIC citizens”

I cannot disagree with you on that, its a personal viewpoint

<<"Ah but where is the line and after what time period can they be returned and to where? A boat? What if they have kids?">>

If you actually read any of my posts about migration you will see that I have always advocated that "We not allow certain groups in that have shown they wil not or cannot integrate into our society" The way to do this is not to grant a visa.

I have NEVER said to return them or, as you put it in earlier post, kick them out. Some of the ones who show utter contempt for us and our laws and standards are Aussie born, their culture is passed down to each generation. They cannot be kicked out and we have to live with that. But we do not have to keep importing more of the same groups.

Citizens cannot be deported. Permanent residents can be deported if they commit a crime and receive minimum of 2 years jail. A convicted drug dealer appealed against his deportation on the grounds that he had fathered a child while here, and won. Another couple were deported, as illegal immigrants, after being here 26 years. they had sucessfull retail business and were highly thought of in their community. Another Islander family were to be deported, as illegal immigrants, and the daughters school and pupils were petitioning the Minister to allow them to stay. I do not know outcome. So there are all sorts of cases

"you now do a similar thing by pointing out specific migrants who failed to be good citizens here."

Master - Who are the specific migrants you refer to? And who are the ones you claim I said "failed to be good citizens." You're not referring to my life-long ding mates, I trust!

Hey serious stuff when ranting, duplicitous self-righteous glupis manipulate and distort the posts of others eh? What an example you set for our newcomers. Any chance of setting you adrift on a leaky boat? More than happy to do a swap!

Not from the very first post have we been able to debate this issue without racism being used as a weapon.
TPP I do not mind you wandering, and keep on being you.
However CJM? and master the strangely changing posting style of AS?
I too have a right to my views, strangely they are not far from maim stream, and shared by many first and second generation Australians.
How many truly be honest, can this country take?
Economic reasons surely are a concern?
How many can we house and feed?
How many can our land take before we run our of water?
Is our culture of value to us, truly do some threaten it, want us to change not them.
Is this a world wide problem or just ours.
Tell me why it is .
And tell me what is wrong so dreadfully wrong in saying we must help but can not do so EVER by opening our doors.
Who is concerned bout those waiting in other country's, in camps to come, is it fair they wait forever yet some boat people get fast tracked.
The blindness to reality the fact we could never house all who want to come, that birth control is not even thought of by those who suffer so badly, the idea that being too open only lowers our standard of living is a concern.
Take 10% of my income to help do not let your blindness turn my country into a third world one.