Boy oh boy you’re a grumpy old coot Mathter Blathter! At least Luddie has a bit of fun on this forum. God knows what you get out of it! ( :>| Posting away in the middle of the night. What, too angry to sleep?

How many posters have you strongly alienated in your short time on OLO? Who spilt the first bad blood between you and Ludnuts…and in no uncertain manner?

Heeehehe hahahaha. Keep accumulating those Ludditewig quotes. You’ll soon have far more than you know what to do with! Check out this old thread: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=2877, where Loonywig put up 141 posts…and would have put up 500 by now if the thread hadn’t been terminated! You’ll find a few gems in there!!

You wrote;

“…all of which, in total, will take many decades to achieve (none of us here will see the final result in our lifetimes) - - - - - ALL these measures, and more, when added together will enable Australia to sustainably support an increased population”

Yes. It could well be the case that when we have all of these things well on the way to repair that this continent could support a larger population…. in a generation’s time perhaps, although probably much longer.

But we’d be a bunch of fools to just keep accepting a rapidly growing population while all of these things are rapidly worsening.

Your thoughts on sustainability are not too bad Master. But your great flaw is that you apparently have no problem with rapid endless population growth, while our resource base and environment are in obvious decline and technological innovations and improved practices are slow and small and show no sign of arresting this decline, let alone rapidly improving ANY of the parameters that are currently getting worse.

We’ve GOT to head directly towards a stable population, for sustainability reasons. You are concerned about sustainability, so surely you can see this.

And surely you can see that our management of onshore asylum seekers has got to be such that we don’t incur a large-scale and uncontrollable escalation in numbers.

“No longer will I be badgered by dear Luddie demanding that I answer his paranoia-driven questions about 'boat people' “.

Oh CJ you mean those questions that were perfectly in line with the relevant discussions…that you just couldn’t answer… that you would have answered quickly if there were simple answers… that you would have answered a day or so later if they were a bit harder… but that you didn’t answer at all, even when I chased you up on them mulitple times, because they caught you out completely!

Yes. That was very telling about how well you have thought out your arguments… and how you would much rather just run away when the going gets tough rather than concede anything.

Well guess what. You’re not off the hook. If you continue to make ratty statements, I’ll continue to ask you the hard questions. If you don’t answer them or just throw up your silly slanders, you’ll do it to your own detriment.

“How will I live?”

I know you’d battle without your almost daily interaction with Ludwig, but there’s no need to worry. I ain’t going anywhere. So we’re bound to continue head-butting on this wonderful forum!

Love you CJ

OK so we have got that off our chests breasts and in some from the other end of the body.
We love/fear/hate/protect boat people.
Cuddle them to our Breast's push them away, or just slander them and any one who thinks differently than us.
How do we make an impact on the problem?
Do we want to
can we, lets try here, we already have we failed every time.
Post WW11 we had the Colombo plan, rebuilding Asia and it helped.
But failed to get good government, it played a part however in todays Indonesia having few who want to leave it .
No side tracks please I know about that country's faults lets think about its successes.
We humanity if we could return 100 years from now to look will in my view see a far different world.
Sadly I think a massive religions war will be fought, if we win, its unclear we will, many less humans will be alive.
If not? who would want to live
It could be much better
if we feed those people who are governed by better governments, who understand the concept of numbers and birth control, who want a better life we can change things.
We must should contribute to build better governments even if it has to be via wars we should make the UN work or abandon it, stop troublesome nations like Russia vetoing it just get in and stop out of control world hunger and unneeded population growth.
We however are far more likely to manufacture a virus to depopulate by stealth ,yes we could do that without blinking, than take the tough choice to give up some freedoms.

Hell hath no fury like a Ludwig scorned!

<<... you would much rather just run away when the going gets tough rather than concede anything >>

I love the way you and your cohorts accuse me of "running away" - I haven't gone anywhere. I have responded to your paranoid qusetions on numerous occasions, but you don't like my answers so you keep on repeating them, somewhat obsessively.

On that subject, thanks for posting that link to the thread where you obsessively conduct a loopy conversation with yourself over a period of years - it reminds me of why I don't take you seriously on some subjects.

BTW, do you still play the jew's harp?

“I love the way you and your cohorts accuse me of ‘running away’’- I haven't gone anywhere.”

Yes CJ, there have been several posters that picked you up on your habit of dropping some of your trademarks slurs and then abandoning the thread, mid-debate…. and of not coming back when called upon. You did run away, numerous times.

“I have responded to your paranoid qusetions [sic] on numerous occasions, but you don't like my answers so you keep on repeating them, somewhat obsessively.”

Now you’re telling porkies. The only reason that I kept answering a couple of key questions was because you repeatedly weren’t giving any answers.

“… thanks for posting that link to the thread where you obsessively conduct a loopy conversation with yourself over a period of years - it reminds me of why I don't take you seriously on some subjects”

Yep, ol’ Loopywig must be a real loony alright, to have held a conversation with himself for about nine months!! Of course, his passion for road safety issues and the thoroughness with which he expressed his views (and his entertaining writing style – combining serious subject matter with humour!) don’t even come into your consideration do they.

Anyway have a nice day CJ. Here in north Queensland the mid winter weather is absolutely superb. How is it in your neck of the woods?

“Post WW11 we had the Colombo plan, rebuilding Asia and it helped.”

How did it make an impact Belly? Was it a plan to keep them where they were or something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombo_Plan

I read that but didn’t feel very enlightened afterwards.

“No side tracks please I know about that country's faults lets think about its successes.”

The country is fine, but money is wasted all over the place with plans to waste more. A culture of money fixing things so you don’t see enough will ever be enough for everyone. Cause when does anyone have enough?

Yep other countries should be helped and most here seem to agree with that one. But when Oz throws money at a country what kind of control does it have on where it goes?