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Ten Thousand Boat People!

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stormbay
I heard your theory many times, from many people! Every times a racist wants to attack aborigines he says the same thing! they drink, they abuse children, they... they.. I do not say there are not aborigines who do not do for what they blamed but to put all aborigines, to put all muslim men on the same basket and throw them to the river is unacceptable!
I do not know if you have a little bit abirigines blood in your body but if you have you had to know that the exclusion is not the solusion of the problem, that the rejection is not the solusion of the problem, that people from a different race or from a different civilization are not all 100% bad or that they have lost their ability to improve their self, to become better.
Where is your understanding, where is your sensitivity as a human being, how we can improve our relations with other civilizations and support them to become better if we block them from the begin, if we do not try first?
Do you think our civilization is without mistakes?
In realy western civilization is full of wars, genosides, blood and dirties!
I heard that some aborigines can sell their mothers for some dollars! May be you are one of them!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 4 July 2009 5:59:34 PM
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“Julie, pied piper, please follow me, you yourself say you do not yet understand us Aussies.”

Alrighty Belly baby but don’t you lead me into the woods never to be seen again. I really don’t understand, I thought we’d be so similar... years ago in Tenterfield I’d cruise in to town and drink with the locals. Great bunch of people and I spent 20 years wanteingto come back here. But now I am all grown up with grown up worries I find this Country somewhat frightening in attitude.

I thought maybe it was just the area I had landed in but it has been all echoed here.

I as usual make sense of things by how I live. Now I can have a houseful of kids, not a moment to stop and then I’ll get a call for one more – I say yes and a car will arrive, off load, leave. Okay now I am happy in my way but bloody busy. Another call – oh my god a sibling group who weren’t safe where they come from. Yeah bugger it, I’ll do it. House chocka with multi colored multi creed, multi allergies. Another call – homeless kid... what do I say? I can see a long term effort of peacemaking and cleaning up messes while getting small individuals to just be a team. You know what I’ll say.

People do want a life worth living Belly, now why do you all think you should stop them. Oldest person here is about 80? In 80 years what did they do to judge others unworthy of entry to this piece of earth?

Antonios, Stormbay is angry, he is allowed. That post was not worthy of you my friend.

And you are right, Western Civilization is in no position to look down on anyone else. But many are raised to, many of us are raised to think our way is the only way. We have always forced our ways and beliefs on others in our own countries and often in other peoples
Posted by The Pied Piper, Saturday, 4 July 2009 6:20:43 PM
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Dear Piper,

One heck of a post - it actually brought tears
to my eyes!

Well said!

Wish I'd written it!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 4 July 2009 6:35:38 PM
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Stormbay,

Let's see you now back up your bigoted "beliefs" about refugees/migrants/Muslims. "PROVE" that your dogma is correct by answering the following questions and statements regarding your specific "beliefs" - - -

Stormbay's belief #1: They argue it's a free country so they should be able to do what they want culturally.

Master's question: As your belief did not include the phrase "some of them" we can only assume you mean "all" of them eh! They all just go ahead and do whatever they want culturally according to the genius Stormboy. OK, here's my question, show us the Australian surveys and statistics that show they "ALL" just "do what they want culturally".

Belief #2: They DEMAND to continue treating women as slaves.

Master's question: Show us the Australian surveys and statistics that prove that male refugees in Australia all "DEMAND THAT THEIR WOMEN BE SLAVES IN AUSTRALIA"

Belief #3: They get very angry if you tell them they can't treat women as they wish

Master's question: How do you know they all get "ANGRY" when told "you can't teat women as you wish"? Have you personally spoken to them "ALL", surveyed them "ALL"?

Stormbay, your entire post was an example of just how dogma, ideology and fear can twist a mind. It shows how easy it is to present grossly inaccurate "generalisations" under the guise of "fact". You can "believe" all your politically correct dogma and demonise refugees till the cows come home, because it takes no skill, knowledge of "fact" or brainpower to write your PC "beliefs" and "assumptions".

Beliefs and assumptions that are based on dogma, ideology and FEAR!
Posted by Master, Saturday, 4 July 2009 6:50:48 PM
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The Pied Piper
I did not expect from a person with aborigine blood to be against refugees and I feel bad to see one aborigine to be racisist, to be against migrants, against refugees.
I am afraid some of them are used from white supremasists for their attacks againsts asians and muslims.
Some aborigines do not like to see from where come the deadly arrows against them.
Stormbay is not ungry, it seems to me that she/he belong to aborigine's elite and forgot its people.
All elites forget and violate their people's rights, this is one from the unwriting conditions to become elite!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 4 July 2009 7:05:46 PM
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I wonder if stormbay learnt about the notion of psychological projection in his /her training? I find it appalling that someone as bigoted and prejudiced about asylum seekers as stormbay evidently is, would be involved in providing "...counselling and psychiatric services to refugee's (sic), to establish their psychological states, their veracity and help them cope with life in Aus".

If stormbay's professional claims are true, I'd be interested to know what kind of supervision strategies s/he employs to neutralise his/her evident bias when dealing with refugee clients, particularly if they happen to be Muslim.

Mind you, I'm beginning to think these appeals to anonymous professional authority by stormbay are just so much bulldust.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 4 July 2009 8:06:10 PM
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