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Ten Thousand Boat People!

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CJM, your questions are meaningless, they are based on your unsupported assumption of bias.
I find myself in agreement with Banjo, I have noticed how the PC brigade prefers to “play the man” rather than address the concerns involved. Abuse and denigration are no substitute for rational discussion.
And as for your claim of the use of the word “illegals” demonstrating racism, that’s ludicrous. The people who arrive without a valid visa are breaking the law, which is the common definition of the word. Not legal, get it?
As for their refugee status, the one question that isn’t often answered is..they pass through a succession of other countries on their way here, some Islamic, why are they not content to settle there, where the culture is much more akin to their own, rather than risk the boats?
Also, since they HAVE passed through relatively stable, democratic, Islamic countries, and kept going, surely they have forfeited their right to claim they have nowhere else to go?
How come they get to pick and choose if they’re so desperate?
And don’t bother telling me it’s not “legal” for them to stay there, that would be just too laughable
Posted by Maximillion, Sunday, 5 July 2009 10:51:18 AM
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More unfounded uneducated insults CJ Morgan and others, record stuck is it, or par for your unstable mental state. I didn't avoid your question, if you read my posts, you may be able to understand your own confusion, but I doubt it from your replies.

We have guidelines to work to, are overseen by government bureaucrats (all unqualified or have arts degrees), when working within department requirements. In NGO's we work as a group and communally decide direction and approach. These groups always consist of at least one person of the same gender, belief and if possible origin as the client.

Prejudice, your displaying it in bucket loads CJ, as most do with little knowledge and the restraints of their ideological prisons. What's your experience in this subject, how many boat people, immigrants, asylum seekers, addicts, homeless, abused and disenfranchised people have you been associated with and worked with to help understand and cope with their situation.

My status is, MSc. (Honours Psychology), Faculty of Science, University of Melbourne. PhD (Clinical Psychology, cultural and community PTSD), Faculty of Medicine, University of Melbourne. Member of the Academy of the Social Sciences in Australia. Member of the Australian Psychological Society (APS) Member of the Australian college of clinical psychologists ACCP.

CJ Morgan, what psychological, sociological, cultural knowledge, accepted qualifications and personal experience qualifies you to speak as an authority on this subject. How many needy confused people do you assist, how many boat people have you met and talked to. What voluntary work do you undertake to help the oppressed and mentally confused.
Posted by stormbay, Sunday, 5 July 2009 1:13:06 PM
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Banjo,
"You are the one who was asking how aboriginals" YES because I support aborigines and I stand by them!
"he is of aboriginal heritage, gave his opinion" Aborigines have suffered very hard from white australians and I can not understand and I do not expect from any one of them to be so hard against muslims, against Boat People, I am one of boat people. (with Quantas!)
Yes I have been hard to stormbay because I thing he/she forgot his people and care only for him self.
stormbay as an educated person knows very well that we (the migrants, the boat people) are the best friends of aborigines and if the governments changed behave to aborigines is of cause our interests and sensitivities for our aborigines brothers.
I found my self closer to abprigines than stormbay.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaid
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 5 July 2009 1:41:50 PM
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I see Stormbay has admitted, on another page, that he has "snorted, smoked and drunk everything".

Hmmmm!

Maybe that's why we have him now typing an AMAZING list of professional qualifications that he "claims" to possess.

Unfortunately for him, the standard of writing and thoughts within his posts seems to betray his "claimed" qualifications.

Everyone here can make up their own mind regarding Stormbay's "claimed" qualifications, as well as Stormbay's "claimed" aboriginal heritage.
Posted by Master, Sunday, 5 July 2009 3:20:32 PM
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Lol Mister, judging by your posts, we "know" that you have no
qualifications :)

Just strawman arguments, ad hominems and wild speculative claims,
without any kind of substantiated evidence.

Ah well, perhaps its just old age setting in.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 5 July 2009 3:57:37 PM
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“pied piper, gee I wish we had italics, this thread is not about racism.”

I know Belly but that is what they become each time. Someone always ends up saying everyone else does not belong or should get out. Maybe it just plain old meanism.

“We Aussies have benefited from migration from the first fleet, NO I will not back down! we are one first Aussies and all, those who
dislike that can jump.”

Yep, just like that. If I had chosen to make Saudi my home (not that they would have let me) I would be having the same conversations I believe.

“Julie it’s not about culture its survival.”

Too extreme Belly. Living standards… us westerners are spoilt aren’t we. Are we still talking 10,000 more right now? What are we at - 20 million?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population

And why is this country full of neglected kids… easy, the majority doesn’t care. It isn’t just here though, the world doesn’t care. But this hasn’t changed through history - what changed was that “they” only recently began making money from state wards. They are still neglected but generate an income.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Sunday, 5 July 2009 4:13:26 PM
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