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Ten Thousand Boat People!

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Shrink: “My status is, MSc. (Honours Psychology), Faculty of Science, University of Melbourne. PhD (Clinical Psychology, cultural and community PTSD), Faculty of Medicine, University of Melbourne. Member of the Academy of the Social Sciences in Australia. Member of the Australian Psychological Society (APS) Member of the Australian college of clinical psychologists ACCP.”

Oh see if I had this knowledge earlier I'd not have had any associated emotion to your posts, probably wouldn't be able to keep the sneer from my face though.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Sunday, 5 July 2009 4:25:57 PM
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Antonios,
Lets make one thing quite clear. If you came here with Qantas and you passed through customs and Immigration, you came here LEGALLY, you are not one of the boat people. Boat people are attempting to cheat the system by barging in and pushing others aside. They are not concerned that others are waiting. Because they have at least enough money to bribe and buy their way they do so and push themselves on us. I do not care if they are muslim, and not all are, or if they come from the Vatican, I object to them because of their actions.

You were invited, they are not!

Like any other group, aboriginals have all sorts of opinions on all sorts of subjects. You should not assume that they dislike anglo-Aussies. I have worked with some and like all, there are all types. Some are devout christians and some are muslim, maybe some hindu or buddest. Some agree with the intervention in the NT while others do not. Same as not all Greeks agree on everything.

I have heard similar to what Stormbay has said about the 'illegals' and have no reason to doubt what he has to say. You know that, these days, all applicants for a visa, except tourists, get given a book in 30 languages that explains in detail about our society. This includes the bit about women having equal rights. The illegals do not have that book so may not really understand about out society. You can bet the smugglers will not tell them anything that could change their mind.

Perhaps you should take in what he has said and keep it in mind. Just for future reference.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 5 July 2009 4:40:57 PM
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Banjo
I came with permanent visa and australian high comission knew my activities and they was sure that soon or later I will involve with migrants right etc. In real the secretary encourage me to be active citizen because there are many migrants and it is better if authorities know migrants conditions.
She knew what she said but the racists, 40% of australian population prefer us silence or out from australia! I do not know where you found the anglo-Aussies I wrote white supremasists not anglo-Aussies.

The Pied Piper
I knew from his posts that he/she is an educated person with close ties with australian authorities, but also I know that he try to cut his ties with aborigines. It is seemed to me that he does not feel very good with aborigines, with hiw mother's race!

stormbay
OK! It is your right and I respect it but PLEASE try to AVOID to write as an aborigine when you do not like them, when you do not feel and behave as an aborigine.
I like the educated aborigines WHEN they do not forget their roots, WHEN they use their knowledge and position to support their people, WHEN they are not against migrants and boat people, the best friends from aborigines.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 5 July 2009 5:31:37 PM
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Banjo, the boat people are doing exactly what YOU, and any other decent Aussie would do, if you were in THEIR shoes.

The boat people are CLUTCHING AT STRAWS, "ANY" STRAW, that offers escape from their often brutal past. That's exactly what YOU would do as well, if you were trapped virtually forever like them.

For many of them, they think their ONE chance of a decent future for their families is to come here, gain residence and have their families come later. They "BELIEVE" this to be true, whether or not it is. They risk their LIVES - - - - do you, or do you not, realise this? They are DESPERATE - - -do you, or do you not realise this? They are not mean, horrible, selfish people out to queue jump for the sake of queue jumping. Indeed, for a good many of them there is NO procedure in place for them to apply to come here. For God's sake Banjo, for many of them there's barely procedures in place to feed and clothe them. But ignorant Aussies (a minority thank God) STILL think they are selfish and mean and nasty, and out to INVADE us.

The figure on this topic here started at 10,000 possible "invaders" and went up to 1,000,000 possible "invaders". The paranoid Aussie minority love their mathematics. The ignorant and fearful among are having a great ol' time spouting their paranioa.

YES - - they need to undergo stringent procedures once here to establish that they are genuine refugees. Not that you, and your ilk, would care.

Refugees, over many decades, have shown that when they become citizens they make GREAT AUSSIES. Not that you, and those of your ilk, would care.

Pied Piper quote, "Someone always ends up saying everyone else does not belong or should get out. Maybe it's just plain old meanism". You hit the nail on the head Jewels. It's not racism,it's "MEANISM". Meanism based on FEAR. Fear of difference. In other words, mean and bigoted. They're a minority. Most Aussies are MUCH better than that.
Posted by Master, Sunday, 5 July 2009 6:11:06 PM
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Now Julie not for a second did I intend to insult you.
You however are right, you do not yet understand the issue
No worries master does not, will not and he/she thinks we do not!
Now AS, NO CAN NOT LET IT GO, I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT YOU ARE ACTING VERY OFFENSIVELY.
See got me into caps now but you now claim 40%of My country men are racists.
Tell me mate, I have asked before, why the vast differences in your posts, in composition and every thing?
You proudly in this and other threads tell us you have joined the Democrats, are you aware that horse is dead?
It is not just dead a rebirth would be bigger than a duck winning the Melbourne Cup!
And no badly treated kids are not a product of not caring, its just some people should be de sexed at birth, children deserve better.
I AS wish you well but your insults to my country and its people are too much, your understanding of boat people also points to you not understanding this debate.
Master old mate, easy there, my family has Aboriginals, and people from most country's in it, none are not welcome in my home.
You throw the word racist around too freely and in my view your self confidence is miss placed.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 5 July 2009 6:38:21 PM
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M. you’ve obviously have had little to do with immigrants, legal or otherwise.
They believe it’s their BEST chance, not their only one.
Asmeon, I just love the way you dictate to and belittle an indigenous person, because he doesn’t have the “correct” attitude, that has an awfully familiar ring to it.
As for your claim that immigrants and indigenous are natural friends and allies, that is ludicrous, go ask an indig’ here, you’ll have your face spat in, they hate each other, and brawl regularly.
When you get out of your comfort zone, get down and dirty, at the front-line, as I and others here have done, you will soon gain an education., and possibly some respect.
I’ve noticed that most of the people in the field are not idealistic, they don’t have time or energy for foolishness, life is too harsh for that.
They deal with the problems you claim don’t exist, and the hardest one is getting across the idea that they can’t carry on the cultural life they left behind, can’t circumcise their girls etc, but must adjust to life here, they largely get quite resentful, it can take years.
Think about this.
The boat-people don’t mysteriously appear in Indonesia, they travel there, crossing many other, often Islamic, countries, yet they keep going, and come here. If they are so desperate, why not stop there? Because it’s against the Law? Doesn’t stop them coming here though, does it?
You lot just love to sling off at anyone who disputes you, but abuse and denigration are no substitute for rational discussion. You slap the “racist” label on anyone who disagrees with you, and worse, and claim to speak for the majority, as if!.
As for your rant about fear and meanness, lol, is it paranoia if someone IS after you?
Are you wrong to be scared as the house collapses around you? People can see this nation changing rapidly, and problems blowing up, all due to an excessive immigration intake, why should they not fear for the future
Posted by Maximillion, Sunday, 5 July 2009 6:50:55 PM
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