Stormbay said;
> There's no system in the world reliable enough to allow full
>security over peoples information, or to stop others accessing
>information they shouldn't. It's a daily occurrence around the >country
>in every department and business.

You obviously are not aware of what is really possible.
Proper security would mean it would take quite powerful computers
ten to twenty years to crack the ciphers on each card.
Even old ciphers like PGP would be virtually impossible to break.
The result would not be worth the effort.
Anyway by the time you did it you would look a lot older than the embedded photo.
Especially with a code in the pixel bits.
Here endith the first lesson.

CJ, I certainly don't think that Australia is so much more racist
then anywhere else in the world. Given the potpourri of nations,
I think we get on pretty good actually. I've seen far worse in
Europe, America and even Japan, China, Arabia, you name it.

Fact is people are tribal by instinct, even you. Your family comes
first, your friends next. As it happens, your friends often think
like you do, that is why they are your friends. You support your
town, state, nation, etc.

People from Muslim countries have a particular problem, virtually
all over the world, due to the very teachings of their religion,
particularly that promoted by Wahabi Islam etc. So commonly
where Islam goes, so called "racism" follows. Muslims in a way
are dammed by the teachings of their own religion. This leads
to cultural conflicts nearly everywhere, unlike say Buddhists etc.

Would I like to live in a country with a large Muslim population?
Nope, as the first thing that goes is free speech. Say a bad
word about the Koran or Mohammed and thats it, jail or whatever
follows. At least in secular nations we can say what we think
about the pope or whoever. So I don't blame Australians for being
nervous about large numbers of Muslim migrants. But then Islam
is not a race, its a religion.

Yabby, though you and I have clashed elsewhere, here I think you have been accurate, cogent, have summed up the situation clearly and intelligently.
My view is that Christianity underwent a catharsis in the Middle Ages, and now Islam appears to be approaching it’s own.
Historically speaking, we appear to be living in “interesting times”.
It’s not without the bounds of possibility that the future could see an Islamic planet, though I wouldn’t personally put odds on it

Me too yabby every word, some one should start a thread about the difference between fear of a race and fear of a religion.
Stormbay I thank you, you gave all the evidence needed to confirm my views up the thread talking to you is a dead end.
Julie, pied piper, please follow me, you your self say you do not yet understand us Aussies.
Well it is true, not yet but maybe in time, I am one of 16 kids, my mums family was thirteen, her dad fathered two family's in his life, both numbered 13 kids.
Once a long time ago, my party fought for child welfare payments, my church of birth and conservatives fought it,said it was communism.
In time the lights on the hill, my party's legendary speech of years ago, calling working classes to unite and fight, faded.
The battlers became middle class because of those who fought those battles,and forgot how they climbed out of poverty.
I have not.
Labor always has and always will be the party with a social conscience in this country.
As this thread is about uninvited migration I fail to understand why we flounder in mud about how legal migrants are treated here.
Lets cut the mustard, get to the truth, that Aussie card side track, in the time of its implementation, A fight I proudly helped win, we had Comdr 64 computers not todays, no government needed that much information.
Now Howard started the Medicare type card , Rudd is going a head with it.
It will stop not one crime.
And I challenge the idea it has anything to do with the increasing numbers of boat people.
If tomorrow we woke to hear North Korea had launched a nuclear weapon, within weeks millions of boat people would be looking for new homes.
The problem is people wanting to live a life worth living nothing less and it is never going to go away.

Belly said about the Australia card;
>And I challenge the idea it has anything to do with the increasing
numbers of boat people.

Who said it did, we were talking about visa overstayers.
It would certainly end up sending many of them home.

“There in a nutshell we have a near caricature of the bigoted misinformation and attitudes espoused by the xenophobic, selfish and heartless contingent. Absolutely no factual basis for any of it - rather a distillation of all the hateful, racist factoids that are bandied about the disenfranchised 'One Nation' racist underbelly of this country.”

Well done CJ Morgan, you've described yourself perfectly, demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge and understanding of the subject.

NGO's provide counselling and psychiatric services to refugee's, to establish their psychological states, their veracity and help them cope with life in Aus. Just about everyone goes through this process and one of the questions we ask is why they chose Australia above the places they transit through. The replies are very much the same, stating, it's a safe country, free welfare money, housing, clothing, furniture, health care, legal services and can bring their relatives here once established.

After acceptance, many become confused as they can't understand why they can't continue with their cultural norms and just pick aspects of our society which suits them. They argue it's a free country so they should be able to do what they want culturally, as 99% come from cultures suppressing women, classing them as inferior and slaves of men they demand to continue with that approach. I understand where they're coming from, but they refuse to accept it's not that way here and unacceptable. If we're going to accept refugee's it would be logical to not accept single men, which is currently 95% of boat arrivals and future problem triggers. They get very angry if you tell them they can't treat women as they wish, the problem we face is, government departments undermine our work with their idiotic bureaucratic and insane political correctness and the women suffer for it. These cowards leave women behind to fend for themselves.

I deal in realities CJ Morgan, not emotional or ideological crap. It's obvious you can't handle truth which doesn't fit your closed mind.