Thank you Antonios. There are a number of dates, either born on or here through, or arrived here then went back. None of which apply to me I guess.

They really push the point that unless you want particular welfare payments or a vote then Kiwi need not apply.

Okay first step seems to be to apply for this “residency” through immigration. This is what I got wrong when applying last time, I thought I already had residency (like in the form of a house).

It is a comfort that many Aussies get this confusing NZ stuff wrong too, the local school demanded the children’s visas before we could enroll them and I sat there very intelligently going “nah Kiwi’s don’t have a bit of paper saying visa”.

Stormbay seems to disagree with you and has stated that only the criminals were okay and now accepted but no more immigrants. I’ll just have to figure out a way to convince them. It is suspected that when the Maoris arrived in NZ that they migrated down from around Hawaii and picked up aboriginal females on their way past Aussie. But I have no Maori blood or I’d definitely claim kinship rights.

Maybe I could suggest that this land is huge and certainly can sustain more people comfortably than its original population. But I think it is probably how they were treated by the first settlers that have put many Aboriginals completely off the idea of even more.

Max, wow… you’re having a hell of a time lately, knuckles bro. Okay I have got stop listening to hip hop as I message.

What card Bazz?

Do not take too much notice of stormbay, its one dead end that subject.
While it is about boat people I come in to contact with over stayer's and illegal migrants in my work.
I have seen workers from south Africa bound to stay and work with one boss, bad boss too, enslaved almost and unable to get visas to stay or even work for some one half human.
Irish hard workers in that same boat unable to stay if they ask for fairness at work.
Fact is some will be upset by these folk having problems but not boat people.
In the world today in my unproven view, more than 2 million people would like to settle in the west.
If they all did that number would swell many many times.
An answer is a must it is not settling them here it has to be a better life at home what ever the costs.
Fixing this problem is in our self interest.

The Pied Piper wrote;
>What card Bazz?

Some years back the Hawke government proposed an Australia Card.
The idea was that all citizens would get one.
You would need it for Medicare, Taxation Dept, Dept of Foreign Affairs
for passport applications, Local Government and State Government
identification etc etc.
Basically anything that you would have to do with government and for
any commercial purposes such as opening bank accounts etc.

There was such a holla balue about it that they pollies did not have
the courage of their convictions and abandoned the idea.

You can see how much it would have helped the immigration dept to
sort out who was illegal and who was not.

There was a similar uproar about the photo drivers licence as it
was said to be the Australia card in disguise.

Still no one has indicated their attitude if tens of thousands or
millions turned up on our doorstep.
If we reject them mother nature will look after them.

"Still no one has indicated their attitude if tens of thousands or
millions turned up on our doorstep.If we reject them mother nature will look after them."

And if we accept that many, Mother Nature will "look after" us!

She IS, hadn't you noticed?

“Some years back the Hawke government proposed an Australia Card.
The idea was that all citizens would get one.
You would need it for Medicare, Taxation Dept, Dept of Foreign Affairs
for passport applications, Local Government and State Government
identification etc etc.
Basically anything that you would have to do with government and for
any commercial purposes such as opening bank accounts etc.”

Oh right – a few countries have talked about it aye. I’d prefer to see everyone micro-chipped with same data you mention and able to be tracked by satelite. Especially kids. Why it is wasted on dogs is beyond me.

So did everyone cry out that it was some breech of their human rights?

Yep could do it at ports and the airports etc, would be brilliant.