The Pied Piper
"What does permanency mean in centrelink speak? Why am I not understanding this?"
For any NON New Zealander migrant in australia permanency means PERMANENT RESIDENT VISA.
For new zealanders in australia there is a special agreement between Australia and New Zealand.
more info
As a New Zealander, am I eligible for Australian citizenship?
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/applying/nz-citizens/eligibility.htm

Social Security payments for New
Zealand citizens living in Australia
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:jc1yxJ28YqUJ:www.welfarerights.org.au/Factsheets/fsssnz.doc+NEW+ZEALAND+CITIZENS+permanent+visa+australia&cd=4&hl=el&ct=clnk&gl=au

Visas for New Zealand citizens
http://www.workpermit.com/australia/new_zealand_citizen.htm

Australia needs people like you!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Foxy
Are you Dr Sallis? I found that you refer very often to Dr Sallis!
I send an email to them but I do not think they will answer to me! I am interested to become member(with rights, voice) of their organization they want volunteers, I want a democratic environment and I am not sure if they care at all for this things

Master fair enough, I did not understand some of what you said.
But you too did not understand me, boat people or ANY illegals are to me a problem.
No way, just as simple as that, I will ever believe hundreds of thousands come via our airports, surely you do not ?
Now forget legal migrants, while in another thread we will revisit multi Culturism, this one is about uninvited entry.
It is in my view about possibility's, just how many will come?
How many want to come?
Should we take Que jumpers? or more from the camps?
Can we look at current European troubles with illegal entry and understand its a world wide one.
If asked I would say it is my hope my culture is not buried by any other.
that we , with the best intentions do not transfer the problems of other nations to our country.
We are a better country for migration, we are going to prosper in the future from migration but we are not going to settle this problem by re settlement here of millions of other country's people.

Sigh;
I have just read the recent flurry of posts on this thread.
It seems we are all concerned about boat people numbers and although
not discussed much the numbers of those who arrive on student or
tourist visas and just disappear.

The rejection of the Australia card was a gift for illegal stayers.

If that card had been accepted with current in card chips and
encryption it would have been much easier to find them.

None of the posters here seem able to tackle the prospect of having
some millions or even tens of millions trying to come here.

Such numbers could only come by boat and anyway the airlines will
be very expensive by that time.
It can very quickly escalate if there are weak procedures in place.

Dear Antonios,

No. I am not Dr Eva Sallis - but Thank You
for the great compliment. Dr Sallis is a
published and accomplished writer, scholar,
and President of "Australians Against Racism."
She is very highly regarded both in Australia
and overseas. Being a recognized expert in her field
- is the main reason I quote her on the topic of
racism.

I referred her and her organisation to you because
you expressed an interest in developing
something similar - and I thought that they may
prove to be a useful contact for you.
Also, Dr Sallis lives in Adelaide with her husband and son,
and her organisation is based in Adelaide - which is where
you are.

Dr Sallis has written on subjects such as :
"A Fair Go For Refugees," "Australian Dream; Australian
Nighmare - Multiculturalism and Racism."

She has taken part in a Weekend of Ideas - Lecture
Series based on Racism at the Manning Clark House
in Canberra. Amnesty International Australia has
worked along with her organisation to present "Voices
of Hope," a huge nationwide schools program.
Australians Against Racism tackles racism in schools in
Australia by providing teachers, school students, parents,
with much needed material - in various mediums.

If you are seriously interested in doing something
constructive they can be contacted at the following
address:

Australians Against Racism
PO Box 107
Enfield Plaza, SA 5085

or

Email:

info@australiansagainstracism.org

Cheers.

Belly,
Below is the latest available data from the DIAC website, that I can see anyway. It clearly shows how absurd the claims made by Master are.

I do not know whether he is confused or doing it deliberately, but he changes from claims about 'illegal entrants' to 'illegal immigrants' and now back again to 'hundreds of thousands of illegal entrants'.

He also makes false claims about the ethnicity of the alleged 'illegals'.

Unless he can validate his wild claims I think he is best ignored.

I did find the information on this aspect interesting. I was wrong on at least one thing, there were only an estimated 48000 'illegals' or 'overstayers' in Aus as at 30-6-05.

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/compliance/managing-the-border/