Master, "Girls in modern times ONLY are involved in scouting. Girls have traditionally been 'Girl Guides' and from about 1995 or 96 'Guides'. Guides remain exclusively girls, which I think is a good idea as it has historically been successful."

Despite the leads I gave you including the Scouts Australia site - which was news for you (?!) - you have once again managed to stuff up and wedge both feet firmly in your mouth.

Lets see now, you are convinced that women would know nothing about the Scout movement because girls were admitted to two youth sections in 1988.

For starters, only a person who have never had any involvement could wrongly assume as you have that the 1988 initiative marked the first or only involvement of girls or women.

Firstly, you have not considered the knowledge that mothers and relatives of youth members and Leaders acquire, often through long association with the movement;

Secondly, you are ignorant that Australia admitted girls and young women into its Venturer Scout and Rover Sections in 1973; and

Finally, you are blissfully unaware that women have been Scout Leaders (previously Scoutmistress) decades before 1988. There are plenty of very old B&W photos of women in Scout uniform and one young woman, Mary Campbell, was the first at the scene of the crash near of a Wirraway from 22 Squadron RAAF near Hazelbrook in the Blue Mountains. The date was 1 August 1940.

"Mary Campbell said that when she led one of the search parties out to the site, they found Sgt. Vincent Charles Monterola's body thrown about 20m from the crash site lying next to some large rocks. The Flying Officer Harry Hopgood's body was trapped in the burnt wreckage."

Some woman! Some Scout! Yet Master, with the blessing and unqualified support of C J Morgan and Pynchme arrogantly states that women and girls have no place in Scouting! What complete tossers they are. Just who are the 'antiwomen' here?

What a compulsive purveyor of BS you are and you are still ducking questions on your claimed major pastoral holdings and Degree.

Poor obsessed sock-puppet, or should I call you Judy?

Cornflower, as you correctly state, the Scouting movement has had women involved for decades. As a kid my pack leader was a woman, both in cubs then in scouts. I guess we'll just chalk that up as another of the sock-puppet's fabrications in her obsession with all things antiseptic.

It's good to see the the pynchme is maintaining her standards in regard to humour. I bet you get a huge kick out of holding your fingers in a vee behind people's heads when photos are being taken, don't you dear? That's always good for a belly laugh, eh? What fun.

Mind you, watching the Pomeranian trying to reach high enough to lick every bum in sight can be amusing, in a "taunting the cripple" sort of a way.

ONCE AGAIN, Cornflower TOTALLY ignores my proof regarding the existence of "Scout masters". ONCE AGAIN, Cornflower refuses to answer my 2 questions regarding her shared conspiracy theory with Antiwomen that I am a CSA government official here for the purpose of harassing men and Antiwomen.

If the questions are too hard, Cornflower just ignores them.

ONCE AGAIN Cornflower shows that her *ONLY* knowledge of scouting comes from the internet and the links I've posted.

In my previous post I mentioned the DECADES long history of GIRLS being "SCOUTS". Then Cornflower and Antiwomen in their disingenuous replies, implied that I didn't know that. Yes, all because I didn't write a "complete" history of girls in the Scouts. Cornflower then went to the internet, and using one of my links I provided, looked up the history of girls in the scouts. She discovered that girls were admitted to "some" scouting sections a few years earlier earlier than my examples. Her descriptions are "WORD PERFECT" copies of what was written in my link - - - - - - that's where Cornflower gets her info from regarding the scouts, the INTERNET. Cornflower and Antiwomen = totally disingenuous. Antiwomen then states women have been involved for decades - - - - I've got news for Antiwomen, "WOMEN" have been involved right from the very beginning, in many different roles. "GIRLS" have only been scouts for decades. Get it right next time Antiwomen.

Cornflower is here for one purpose - - - - to personally attack a person's credibility through the disingenuous spread of innuendo. She borrowed the innuendo from Antiwomen. The innuendo is that I am a person from the Child Support Agency with the initials JW (it seems Antiwomen has just implied in his last post that the J stands for "Judy")

Antiwomen: << ...amusing, in a "taunting the cripple" sort of a way. >>

How unsurprising that Antiwomen derives amusement from teasing people with disabilities. I wonder whether that's something he learned from playing Thugby League - or from his "mum", who seems to delight in badgering an 81-year old man.

It's also interesting to note how stubbornly he sticks to his ridiculous claims even when they're completely discredited. I can't imagine how he ended up being bitter, twisted and conspicuously alone.

Cue comment about leg-humping Pomeranian...

C J Morgan. "My personal theory is that Cornflower is Antiwomen's mother,"

That is part of your modus operandi isn't it, to launch a personal attack on anyone who disagrees with you, while inviting others to join in as well.

You are typical of the cyber bully, forever calling people names and proposing negative labels for them in your attempts to lower them in the eyes of others, hoping thereby to undermine their credibility and argument. Having done that you continually snipe at them hoping they will withdraw or leave, which if it happens is an occasion for much chortling for you and the similarly inclined sad types who run in a pack with you.

From research on bullying your behaviour would have been carried through from the schoolyard to adult life. So there is no surprise you are so polished in your belittling gibes and dog whistling.

You are perfectly aware as is Pynchme, who responded to your dog whistling as usual and ever-ready to bait as part of a pack, that my sole interest is in taking Master to task for telling a series of outrageous porkies - which is not an unreasonable thing to do since s/he moralises about the sportsmanship of footy players. After all, fair play should not restricted to the sporting field.

So as I said previously,

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2883&page=77

you can include me out of your vicious little parlour games.

For Chrissakes!

Someone put this thread out of its misery.