It is scientifically proven that there is a link between cruelty to animals and cruelty to people etc.

The search engines are full of websites relating to the topic. There are also many books available dealing with the topic.

Pathway to Violence Against People by Merz-Perez Linda

Cruelty To Animals And Interpersonal Violence: Readings In Research and Application by Randall Lockwood

Child Abuse, Domestic Violence, and Animal Abuse: Linking the Circles of Compassion for Prevention and Intervention by Frank R. Ascione

Children and Animals: Exploring the Roots of Kindness by Frank R. Ascione

Brute Force: Policing Animal Cruelty by Arnold Arluke

The Power and Promise of Humane Education by Zoe Weil

http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/abuse_connection.php

I believe the Churches especially have a huge role to play in educating mainly their adult flock that animal cruelty is not acceptable and that all humans should be at least caring for God`s creatures with compassion and treat them with the dignity and respect they deserve.
After all Animals have souls Genesis 1:20, 21, 24, 29

Church Leaders play an important role in educating their people that mistreating an animal is not acceptable and should be condoned.
Some time ago I had been lobbying the politicians to include animal welfare (raising domestic animals like chickens and rabbits, Guinea pigs etc.) in their school curriculum in order to teach children to look after and care for these creatures.

Animals too suffer from pain, stress and grief, like human do.

As somebody said:”A world without animals is a world unfit for humans”.

Celivia I was going to say something to Ozgirl however you have done far better job than I.

Ozgirl, if you have read the post what it says are there many good people going to Church who are not being guided by the Church Leaders.
They run a Mile because they are frightened of loosing their Government Grants.
60 Minutes have now done 5 Documentaries on the barbaric treatment of animals, yet not one word from our Church Leaders except the Muslim Leaders.
If the cap fits wear it.
What can you do to help the animals?

Celvia,

I do believe I did add something of great importance...the 'outing' of this whole new concern on the animal wefare topic, apart from of course Wendy.
Going back the the abortion pill thread it was I who pointed out how Wendy had to fight to get anyone to listen to her re. this whole topic and it was I who supported her stance then when noone else was interested.

Scout to her credit did then open an Animal Welfare thread and it generated great interest and that was fantastic...

So me thinks Celivia you have a short memory.You started the thread so you now own it?Gosh, how exclusive are 'we'?

I never said you cannot talk about anything in the world you so wish...but generalisations and victimisation does a great disservice to your cause. I do detect a note of patroniastion by you but thats best left alone for now..but lets just say its not just directed at me this very moment.

I know the church has a lot to answer for in regards to many issues in society, issues of humanity, this topic and many others, but in the world you live in re this forum ,man is judged alone by how many links he can provide on a topic,?How sad.
When did our own opinion come to mean nothing at all?

Sorry I upset you..but we cant all be in agreeance on everything , that is not the real world.The school yard 'lingo' came out again there very clearly didnt it?...you like that 'we' word.

And by the way..I have no problem with anything Wendy has posted on here..she has always had deep issues with the Church and christians(disspassionate ones) over this issue...no back flip from her do I detect.

So I guess I will say it is not up to you to 'drum up' negative feeling toward me because I dare question the tone of this thread...not the content as such but the tone..
Just look at the title'christians where the hell are ewe?' whats with that?How would any christian feel welcome to appear on this thread and put in any kind of comment wether it be in the affirmative or not...?Hostile.

So i cant provide you with a 'link' to highlight and give further insight into an issue such as that ...sorry.

Its about balance and welcoming all input, including mine.

Antje, thanks for those book titles- that’s enough research to make the statement reasonable that there's a connection between caring for animals and caring for people.
Goodness me, there are so many people who haven’t learned to care- I saw a little bit this morning on Sunday at 9 about elderly people being ripped off their pension and even houses by their own children/grandchildren/ How terrible! I agree that it is very good for children to have animals in their lives- they learn to care, respect, to feel compassion for someone else than themselves.
Good idea, the lobbying. How did that go- any success?

OZGIRL, agree with you on the title, was a bit confronting, that’s why I changed it.
I don’t care what you think about me so I’m not upset. Let’s try not to get personal.

The two things you have said that we agree upon:
That animal issues are important.
That the church has a lot to answer for. I fully agree ;)

Dear Celivia and all,

Firstly, let me introduce myself. I am Michael, a 25 yr old guy who believes in Jesus (i.e, I am a Christian).

Secondly, I would like to show what my Leader's..Jesus Christ's attitude towards animals.

" I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. " John 10:11

" Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. " Matthew 6: 26

" Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin; yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven. "
Matthew 6:27

Thirdly, I would like to say : " I hate Animal-cruelty acts like Bull-fighting, Cock-fighting for the delight of people. I hate animal torture.

I am not a veggie; I do eat meat. It's good for health. "

And I have a few questions for you: 1) Why do you want us to campaign? 2) What do you think of me, in the light of my above statements ? 3) At the moment, Humans are cruelly killed: Animals are cruelly killed. What should be our priority?

I hope you reply to my questions.

Thanks in advance.
Michael.

Michael.

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"The Greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. Vivisection is the blackest of all the black crimes that man is at present committing against God and His fair creation. If ill becomes us to invoke in our daily prayers the blessings of God, the Compassionate , if we in turn will not practice elementary compassion towards our fellow creatures"
-Mahatma Gandh