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UOG:"while i would like to help..here are some search results from the world freeman society that might help out better..."

Thank you Under One God, I went and read them. But I think in the states they have a lot of different laws to call on and things in their constitution and stuff that I am never going get my head around.

I have trawled through forums but anything discussing DoCS in Australia is usually parents who are very angry about their own personal situation and dealing with the department. Took me a long time to find a site where I thought the people understood more about how things work.

I think I need to learn some basics. When the government decides to contract out to private companies how does it work and why do they do it? Does it mean the government has itself "Peaked" and can no longer do the job?

UOG:"as to the rest of your post i cant make head nor tails of it..[but such is old age]"

You're being nice to me when I was rather rude and definately uncalled for. Sorry.
Posted by Jewely, Thursday, 7 May 2009 11:09:43 PM
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jewelry<<When the government decides to contract out to private companies how does it work and why do they do it?>>..it is usually done under authority of an act..[the act is authoritive only for those covered under the act]

thus we have things like liquir acts or transport acts or drugs acts, and in your case child protection acts[...the ascts are usually quoted when they do their vile,[under the act]..the thing to do is ask them for proof you are subject to their act..[this means carefull study of their acts]which that site does

how they get the right..is we applied..to register under their act[when a child is born..they are required to be registered[under the act]..thus fall subject under the act..[were they not registered they wouldnt be subject to the act

see when we beg..[apply means in legal speak beg]..when we apply[beg] to regester a birth,..the act of registration creates a persona[person]..subject to the act

[because we aplied to drive under a licence..we fall subject to road laws[but registration is only required if doing buisness..[legally a vehicle is a means to obtain income,..thus it is registered]

when we apply to pay tax..we are presumed to know for what we beg[but income tax is only on income..[not wages],see its all related..[at the forementioned site[under succes stories]is a post about a russion child..[given a number not a name]..and the act cant register him[thus has no power over him]

its too complicated to explain in 350 words but it all is explained at the forum

<<Does it mean the government has itself"Peaked"and can no longer do the job>>..the govt has over reached in many areas..[see under constituted law..those laws are ONLY to control govt acts..[not the people..[so clever lawyers made a'person'[our IN CAPS NAME]..that falls under govt authority[under the act]..via the civil-law of contract

[when we APPLY to any govt agency..the IN CAPS person,..contracts into the act..[thus THE PERSON;..the in caps name]..creates a contracted juristiction

[its all explained at the site]..its completly legal..[BUT NOT LAWFULL]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 8 May 2009 12:03:58 AM
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Jewely, at the risk of upsetting Maximilion again, since you are trying to learn all you can about the law, especially since you are into looking after the lambs, John 21:15 I can tell you why you are unhappy with the legal system in New South Wales. It has gone pure pagan, and pagans own slaves. A Christian society values every member of it, and once again at the risk of upsetting about half the population, a certain major Church was the biggest slave owner in the world. It was rejected by English law, and they have been fighting each other ever since. That was 1215.

In 1970 a certain whoremaster brothel owner sly grogger, with illegal casino’s after making an enormous amount of money running girls and grog to American sailors during and after WWII hit his peak set out to bribe both Liberal and Labor to provide him with a safe environment in which to operate. Between 1969 and 1979 he got exactly what he paid for, and we have a Supreme Court that is no longer a Supreme Court, and a Federal Court of Australia that is not and never has been a proper Christian court. We have Judges and Magistrates and had a Police force that was bought off.

Paul Keating, in about 1992 realised that Australia was heading down the track of a banana republic, just like the banana republics that have been established all over the world where this certain Church has had dominant influence, made legislation to correct the malfunctioning Australian society. The whoremaster was still alive until 2006. His tentacles extended well into the Liberal party.While he lived they were impotent.

PK passed legislation between 1993 and 1996, to fix all this up. A National Criminal Code Act 1995 ( Cth) was enacted, Trade Practices Act 1974 was amended and updated, The Evidence Act 1995, (Cth) was upgraded, The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights was enacted in 1986, and reenacted and applied in 1995. When Labor was defeated in 1996, we took a backward step into the dark ages
Posted by Peter the Believer, Friday, 8 May 2009 7:27:51 AM
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Not a problem at all, your post was relevant and helpful, congratulations. Your apparent expertise is always welcome, where it's appropriate, as here.
Posted by Maximillion, Friday, 8 May 2009 8:05:07 AM
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Hey, I read it thank you, I printed out both posts and really read them. What is The Forum? Besides not know anything about politics, acts, the law – I am also a complete neophyte when it comes to navigating sites.

I should not have stated I need help, but asked if I did. This is what I believe, what I understand:

I foster children, have done for over ten years, have had 106 lambs in my care. For a 0 – 5 year old child I receive 395.00 a fortnight in NSW. I foster Short Term (pretty much while in court sorts stuff) and then Court decides in the end if the child is going to go back to parents or on in to Long Term Care (either with DoCS carers or from NGO care bases). I pack bags and say goodbye.

The NGO’s are funded by DoCS. I think right now DoCS has about 80% or carers and the NGO’s have the rest. NGO caregivers get paid more as do their caseworkers etc.

Right now it is being planned that over the next 3 – 5 years (recommended by Justice Woods) that NGO’s take over the fostering of children.

Wouldn’t a private company be more inclined to take money and not actually provide a good service to the children if they can get away with it?

There is a study about to commence trying to work out why the foster children don’t do very well compared to other children. I think I know. They just “place” them, they never ask about the kids or what sort of family might suit them. I have already seen NGO’s bully DoCS to place children as quickly as possible within their own system with total disregard of the little humans.

I feel I need to do something, but am at a loss.
Posted by Jewely, Friday, 8 May 2009 1:36:29 PM
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will..try to outline..a bit about the sysytem..as it was explained to me
see that society..has allways looked at ways to seperate children from thier parents

[there are amoung the carers..those who couldnt care-less about their charges,..lets call them the ngo's]

see that abo/children were put into orphenages and even british/kids were stolen from their parents ww2 and brought to aussie and other commonwealth countries SOLEY to supply govt servant needs for kids to rape

see that the govt organises the'carers'to have a ready supply of kids available for keeping the judges,cops and polies etc in line''[they got'good'dirt on em..when you got proof of pediphilia on em]..you get great..'party'loyalty

these poor kids have got all sorts of stuff put on em..[mind controled and many other perversions programed into em..[i have met with more than a few of them in the drug scene and ammoung the homeless and insane..

their stories are consistant[though it would be so much easier to say they are nuts]..in the end i had to accept the truth..maybe ten different individuals'revealed'to me in confidence..[over the years

its so organised..that govt-cars deliver specific/kids according to need for the individual/perversions..[its fairly pervasive going down right now..canberra sydney and brisbane politics for sure]..as these are locations i have been told about..i dont have any reason to presume its not global..[if you ever attended a carer gathering you would soon realise the truth of the matter for your self]

but i dont have first/hand knowing..[i have only witnessed the end result of the matter]..it was part of the learning i had to accept[one of those things you wish you never knew about]..but such is as it is

[what can we do to change it?..[not a real lot,think of the likes of alan jones,jonny young..[the media is in on the scam,..and the police as well]..they run the prison/system and the justice/system..[yes even the phyciatric/system/pro-fession..lol...

the one consolation..is those abused seem to be more aware than the average sheeple..[must be the better'class'of people they mix with]but its the main reason i refuse to join the scum floating at the top..[the..'peak'of humanity..so to speak]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 8 May 2009 2:13:46 PM
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